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Could your ignorant self be any more dumber?? That is not something officially revealed by IA but is a TV show...more like a novela if you know what that meansI like Indian video version of this clash
India Releases the Indian version of Galwan Chinese Indian Clash Video
This is the Indian video version of the clash. Bollywood version, Indian new TV drama "Galwan Valley".
indians are massively outnumbered by the PLA but still fight bravely, in the end they decisively routed the overwhelming PLA troops and even captured the commanding officer of PLA.
反映中印两国去年6月在边境地区出现流血冲突的宝莱坞影片《加勒万河谷》近期开拍。根据流出的拍摄片段与剧照，本剧大概率继续延续印度“抗中神剧”的套路，以夸张的手法凸显印度军队的“英勇无畏”。
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This is exactly what "Tass" published. Show me where does it say "Unverified Indian Sources"? Also, the guy who tweeted is residing in China...no wonder he had to make that comment. I'm sure CCP must've had a few folks on their payroll
https://tass.com/world/1254813
It's nice that you are a fan of Indian entertainment. But this isn't the section for posting such stuff. In civilized democracies there entertainment and facts generally come under different silos. Perhaps @Nilgiri can open a sticky for you - "Chinese fans of Bollywood" and you can post your fanboy moments there?I like Indian video version of this clash
India Releases the Indian version of Galwan Chinese Indian Clash Video
This is the Indian video version of the clash. Bollywood version, Indian new TV drama "Galwan Valley".
indians are massively outnumbered by the PLA but still fight bravely, in the end they decisively routed the overwhelming PLA troops and even captured the commanding officer of PLA.
反映中印两国去年6月在边境地区出现流血冲突的宝莱坞影片《加勒万河谷》近期开拍。根据流出的拍摄片段与剧照，本剧大概率继续延续印度“抗中神剧”的套路，以夸张的手法凸显印度军队的“英勇无畏”。
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Here is the link -
www.breitbart.com
China Detains Bloggers for Challenging Official Story of Himalayas Clash
Three Chinese bloggers were detained on Sunday for the “crime” of doubting their government's narrative of the June 2020 Galwan Valley clash.
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He has enough playroom areas in this forum....big crayons and things to scribble on.
He can have fun over there at his time and expense....and tantrums as he pleases. If that is anyone's cup of tea, they are welcome to go there.
The sections I am responsible for are for grown-ups only as far as possible and as long as I am on watch.
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Chinese report claims to have detailed knowledge of India’s border deployment
The analysis by expert Pan Xinmao, formerly from the PLA Academic of Military Science’s Operation Theory and Doctrine Research Department, was published on the website of the Outlook Weekly
A 38-year-old Chinese blogger named Qiu Ziming who writes under the name “Labixiaoqiu” on the social media platform Weibo was forced to broadcast a humiliating video apology on Tuesday for daring to question Beijing’s official narrative of the clash between Chinese and Indian soldiers in the Himalayas last June.
After months of refusing to disclose how many casualties it suffered in the Galwan Valley hand-to-hand battle, the Chinese military claimed in February 2021 that it lost only four soldiers in the fight, compared to the 20 casualties that were long ago disclosed by the Indian government. Indian outlets claimed over twice the number of Chinese soldiers died as Indians
A great deal of skepticism was expressed online about China’s claim and their government quickly began arresting everyone who rebuked the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) narrative, charging them with illegally “defaming the country’s heroes and martyrs.”
Qiu Ziming appeared on a prime-time broadcast of China’s state-run CCTV network, clad in a prison uniform and locked in a cell, to denounce himself for “smearing” the “heroes” of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).
“I feel extremely ashamed of myself, and I’m very sorry. My behavior was an annihilation of conscience,” groveled the imprisoned blogger, who had about 2.5 million followers on Weibo before his account was suspended.
During the many years I surfed online, my writings have become more and more frivolous and arrogant. Without learning about the whole picture, I spoke ill of the heroes who gave their lives to guard our home. My words not only hurt the reputation and honor of those soldiers, but of all PLA soldiers,” he said during his one-minute apology video.
The Hindustan Times noted that the CCP keeps forcing prisoners to make “confession” videos before they even go to trial, despite condemnation of the practice from across the free world as a human rights violation.
Qiu was arrested two weeks ago and formally charged on Monday, the first of seven detainees to be charged for questioning the official government narrative of the Galwan Valley clash. The law against “defaming martyrs” he was charged with was rewritten on the very same day his charges were filed.
Chinese media stubbornly refused to specify exactly what Qiu wrote that was so offensive, but India Narrative said on the day of his arrest the blog included a video posted by the PLA that made its claim of losing only four soldiers look absurd.
“If you look at it carefully, the four who lost their lives were honored for their ‘rescues.’ If even the people who went to save others were sacrificed, then that must mean there were people who weren’t saved, which means there must be more than four people who died,” Qiu reasoned.
In subsequent Weibo posts, Qiu suggested the highest-ranking Chinese officer at the Galwan clash fled the scene to save his own life. The youth wing of the CCP reported his post to the authorities, triggering his arrest on the all-purpose charge of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble.” He faces up to ten years in prison.
The South China Morning Post described Qiu’s skeptical posts as a “contrast to the tide of poems and tributes unleashed online since the identification of the soldiers,” which Weibo gathered and promoted under a hashtag that translated to “they died for me.”
China’s state-run Global Times reported on Tuesday that schoolchildren are being taught to revere the “five precious frontier soldiers” – four “martyrs” plus one wounded – from the Galwan Valley battle. School administrators linked them to the “medical heroes” who helped battle the coronavirus in the “hero city” of Wuhan.
Inconveniently for the CCP’s myth-making and dissent-quashing efforts, PLA officers have quoted varying numbers of Galwan Valley casualties when holding discussions with Indian military officials or talking among themselves, with some estimating as high as 14 deaths. The Indian military estimates that between 25 and 40 PLA soldiers died in the battle, including at least one officer.
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After months of refusing to disclose how many casualties it suffered in the Galwan Valley hand-to-hand battle, the Chinese military claimed in February 2021 that it lost only four soldiers in the fight, compared to the 20 casualties that were long ago disclosed by the Indian government. Indian outlets claimed over twice the number of Chinese soldiers died as Indians
A great deal of skepticism was expressed online about China’s claim and their government quickly began arresting everyone who rebuked the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) narrative, charging them with illegally “defaming the country’s heroes and martyrs.”
Qiu Ziming appeared on a prime-time broadcast of China’s state-run CCTV network, clad in a prison uniform and locked in a cell, to denounce himself for “smearing” the “heroes” of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).
“I feel extremely ashamed of myself, and I’m very sorry. My behavior was an annihilation of conscience,” groveled the imprisoned blogger, who had about 2.5 million followers on Weibo before his account was suspended.
During the many years I surfed online, my writings have become more and more frivolous and arrogant. Without learning about the whole picture, I spoke ill of the heroes who gave their lives to guard our home. My words not only hurt the reputation and honor of those soldiers, but of all PLA soldiers,” he said during his one-minute apology video.
The Hindustan Times noted that the CCP keeps forcing prisoners to make “confession” videos before they even go to trial, despite condemnation of the practice from across the free world as a human rights violation.
Qiu was arrested two weeks ago and formally charged on Monday, the first of seven detainees to be charged for questioning the official government narrative of the Galwan Valley clash. The law against “defaming martyrs” he was charged with was rewritten on the very same day his charges were filed.
Chinese media stubbornly refused to specify exactly what Qiu wrote that was so offensive, but India Narrative said on the day of his arrest the blog included a video posted by the PLA that made its claim of losing only four soldiers look absurd.
“If you look at it carefully, the four who lost their lives were honored for their ‘rescues.’ If even the people who went to save others were sacrificed, then that must mean there were people who weren’t saved, which means there must be more than four people who died,” Qiu reasoned.
In subsequent Weibo posts, Qiu suggested the highest-ranking Chinese officer at the Galwan clash fled the scene to save his own life. The youth wing of the CCP reported his post to the authorities, triggering his arrest on the all-purpose charge of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble.” He faces up to ten years in prison.
The South China Morning Post described Qiu’s skeptical posts as a “contrast to the tide of poems and tributes unleashed online since the identification of the soldiers,” which Weibo gathered and promoted under a hashtag that translated to “they died for me.”
China’s state-run Global Times reported on Tuesday that schoolchildren are being taught to revere the “five precious frontier soldiers” – four “martyrs” plus one wounded – from the Galwan Valley battle. School administrators linked them to the “medical heroes” who helped battle the coronavirus in the “hero city” of Wuhan.
Inconveniently for the CCP’s myth-making and dissent-quashing efforts, PLA officers have quoted varying numbers of Galwan Valley casualties when holding discussions with Indian military officials or talking among themselves, with some estimating as high as 14 deaths. The Indian military estimates that between 25 and 40 PLA soldiers died in the battle, including at least one officer.
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They didn't announce even now...only 4 were revealed and ended up releasing a heavily edited propaganda video which was pathetic to say the least. Russia' TASS news agency said 45 chinese were killed during the Galwan clash
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I would go with 60. Lt Gen YK Joshi himself said the northern command had reports of around 60 being carried away. He did quote Russian Tass number of 45 for deniability but he himself is a hell of a source lol.
I would rather go with a war hero himself than undisclosed foreign intelligence sources.
I would rather go with a war hero himself than undisclosed foreign intelligence sources.
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60 casualties doesn't mean 60 dead. Some could have been carried away alive too.
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Something is clearly off given the official disclosure so far makes no sense given nature of the incident (by China's own account earlier)....4 dead but 1 injured?
This is the part that has got number of Chinese bloggers in trouble (most murmur though rather than take a stand and face the official heat/censure/jail like in OP article)....I did a bit of look and see myself in various fora they run.
The gaslighting model used by CCP is wearing thin especially when there is forced-hand reactionary response down road in time/intensity they are not used to....in this day and age (compare to cold war isolationist grey space that operated for internal turmoil and also for 1979 vietnam border war etc).
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I had a discussion with a bunch on how other countries collect battle casualties in a conflict and it turns out even the CIA figure (35) was actually through IMINT. Earlier reports suggested that 16 bodies were found downstream on the Indian side and handed over the next day. ( first reported by shiv back in June).
My take is casualties are way more than what are even being reported that the chinese had to come up with a number. But I dont want to speculate for the sanity of this forum.
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Chinese and Indian soldiers clashed last year in a deadly border conflict along the India China border, called the Line of Actual Control. China has now released the number of PLA Chinese soldiers that died in that India China Standoff. But some Chinese netizens are questioning the official numbers. And that's gotten them into big trouble.
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Mapping The PLAGF's Field Deployments In Eastern Ladakh
Updated GoogleEarth imagery has nolw revealed the scales of field deployment of the PLAGF Ground Forces’ two warfighting formations now depl...
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Updated GoogleEarth imagery has nolw revealed the scales of field deployment of the PLAGF Ground Forces’ two warfighting formations now deployed in eastern Ladakh—the South Xinjiang Military District’s Kashgar-based 6 Highland Mechanised Infantry Division and the Aksu-based 4 Highland Motorised Infantry Division.
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But why?Mapping The PLAGF's Field Deployments In Eastern Ladakh
Updated GoogleEarth imagery has nolw revealed the scales of field deployment of the PLAGF Ground Forces’ two warfighting formations now depl...
Updated GoogleEarth imagery has nolw revealed the scales of field deployment of the PLAGF Ground Forces’ two warfighting formations now deployed in eastern Ladakh—the South Xinjiang Military District’s Kashgar-based 6 Highland Mechanised Infantry Division and the Aksu-based 4 Highland Motorised Infantry Division.
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China was India’s top imports source despite LAC crisis
TNN | Updated: Mar 18, 2021, 12:09 IST
China, USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were the top five countries from where India sourced its imports.
NEW DELHI: Even as most of last year saw Indian and Chinese soldiers engaged in a eyeball-eyeball standoff near LAC in eastern Ladakh and violent clashes between troops in Galwan valley, China continued to remain on top of the list of countries from where India imported goods during January-December, 2020.
In 2020, India imported goods worth $ 58.71 billion from China, MoS (commerce and industry) Hardeep Singh Puri told Lok Sabha on Wednesday in reply to a question by Trinamool Congress MP Mala Roy.
In his written reply, the minister said China, USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were the top five countries (in that order), from where India sourced its imports.
Giving details, the reply said the top five countries from where India imported goods during 2020 (January-December) are China with goods worth $58.71 billion, the US ($26.89 billion), United Arab Emirates ($23.96 billion), Saudi Arab ($17.73 billion) and Iraq ($16.26 billion).
The amount of total imports from the top five countries is worth $ 143.55 billion, which amounts to 38.59 % of the total imports -- amounting to $ 371.98 billion.
The minister also informed the House that, “imports take place to meet the gap between domestic production and supply, consumer demand and preferences for various items”.
The major items of import from China, according to the minister, were “products such as telecom instruments, computer hardware and peripherals, fertilizers, electronic components/instruments, project goods, organic chemicals, drug intermediates, consumer electronics, electrical machinery etc.”
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TNN | Updated: Mar 18, 2021, 12:09 IST
China, USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were the top five countries from where India sourced its imports.
NEW DELHI: Even as most of last year saw Indian and Chinese soldiers engaged in a eyeball-eyeball standoff near LAC in eastern Ladakh and violent clashes between troops in Galwan valley, China continued to remain on top of the list of countries from where India imported goods during January-December, 2020.
In 2020, India imported goods worth $ 58.71 billion from China, MoS (commerce and industry) Hardeep Singh Puri told Lok Sabha on Wednesday in reply to a question by Trinamool Congress MP Mala Roy.
In his written reply, the minister said China, USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were the top five countries (in that order), from where India sourced its imports.
Giving details, the reply said the top five countries from where India imported goods during 2020 (January-December) are China with goods worth $58.71 billion, the US ($26.89 billion), United Arab Emirates ($23.96 billion), Saudi Arab ($17.73 billion) and Iraq ($16.26 billion).
The amount of total imports from the top five countries is worth $ 143.55 billion, which amounts to 38.59 % of the total imports -- amounting to $ 371.98 billion.
The minister also informed the House that, “imports take place to meet the gap between domestic production and supply, consumer demand and preferences for various items”.
The major items of import from China, according to the minister, were “products such as telecom instruments, computer hardware and peripherals, fertilizers, electronic components/instruments, project goods, organic chemicals, drug intermediates, consumer electronics, electrical machinery etc.”
China was India’s top imports source despite LAC crisis - Times of India
India Business News: Even as most of last year saw Indian and Chinese soldiers engaged in a eyeball-eyeball standoff near LAC in eastern Ladakh and violent clashes between
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