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The first Airbus C-295MW meant for India, painted in IAF livery:

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Of the 56 ordered, the first 16 will be built in Spain and the remaining 40 license-built in India.
 
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Nilgiri said:
Best thing about this is further expansion of TATA (TASL-Airbus) ecosystem to provide large future avenue outside of HAL.

I expect 56 to be just initial order and production, there will be sustained production of the platform in large numbers long term.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

CCS clears procurement of 56 transport aircraft from Airbus for IAF; 40 planes to be manufactured in India

The defence ministry also said that the aircraft has a rear ramp door for quick reaction and para dropping of troops and cargo.
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Afif said:
Air launched Pinaka would require an enhanced version with greater accuracy.
With 60m CEP current guided Pinaka sucks. (No offence)
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The current CEP is classified. The <60m one found on 2019 DRDO document was given that way w.r.t meeting the initial requirements of 0.2% of (30 km) range of the initial block production of guided pinaka.

The priority (cost wise) of CEP improvement lay and lies with the ballistic missile program first given munition delivery and ranges involved that provide the first cost feasibility of doing so.

So a CBA will be progressively done with pinaka guided regarding this( ring laser gyro + navic et al.) vis a vis expanding that with say pralay which is the smallest SRBM being introduced in arsenal right now.

But where that lies right now actualised currently w.r.t pinaka is classified.
 
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Afif said:
Air launched Pinaka would require an enhanced version with greater accuracy.
With 60m CEP current guided Pinaka sucks. (No offence)
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60m CEP current guided Pinaka!!!nope thats for the unguided for guided its 7 mtrthats good enough for a rocket
 
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Nilgiri said:
The current CEP is classified. The <60m one found on 2019 DRDO document was given that way w.r.t meeting the initial requirements of 0.2% of (30 km) range of the initial block production of guided pinaka.

The priority (cost wise) of CEP improvement lay and lies with the ballistic missile program first given munition delivery and ranges involved that provide the first cost feasibility of doing so.

So a CBA will be progressively done with pinaka guided regarding this( ring laser gyro + navic et al.) vis a vis expanding that with say pralay which is the smallest SRBM being introduced in arsenal right now.

But where that lies right now actualised currently w.r.t pinaka is classified.
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pralay srbm with 150 km range still costs in crores (5 cr estimate) whereas unguided pinaka cost max 40 lakhs and guided one around 50 lakh, the air launched even if they cost 1 cr a piece will still be cheaper than pralay
 
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JOYDEEPGHOSH said:
pralay srbm with 150 km range still costs in crores (5 cr estimate) whereas unguided pinaka cost max 40 lakhs and guided one around 50 lakh, the air launched even if they cost 1 cr a piece will still be cheaper than pralay
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I'm just saying doing it for rocket artillery is final tier stuff (if you look at budget involved regarding raw numbers involved, what munition/range you get and the C4I upgrading needed given these numbers relative to say BM architecture for say pralay and prahaar and CM architecture deployed too).

Hence why there is no official release on the capability right now (mirroring cloak and dagger deployment of nirbhay CM post-galwan). Each number you give other than the DRDO doc from 2019 is unofficial and speculative in the end AFAIK.

I would expect Indian military budget has to break 100+ billion USD range for there to be sizeable sustained final tier progress here given current cost and benefit ratios involved of this....where the capability also becomes more open source recognised too...with the test release statements and so on.
 
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Nilgiri said:
I'm just saying doing it for rocket artillery is final tier stuff (if you look at budget involved regarding raw numbers involved, what munition/range you get and the C4I upgrading needed given these numbers relative to say BM architecture for say pralay and prahaar and CM architecture deployed too).

Hence why there is no official release on the capability right now (mirroring cloak and dagger deployment of nirbhay CM post-galwan). Each number you give other than the DRDO doc from 2019 is unofficial and speculative in the end AFAIK.

I would expect Indian military budget has to break 100+ billion USD range for there to be sizeable sustained final tier progress here given current cost and benefit ratios involved of this....where the capability also becomes more open source recognised too...with the test release statements and so on.
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do some google there are many resources that talk abt the pinaka cost
 
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