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The bright idea of concentrating artillery capability (tubed artillery capability) in the 155 mm howitzer/medium artillery was never appealing. There are so many situations where this kind of 105 mm gun, towed, self propelled on wheels, self propelled on tracks, easy to transport by chopper, easy to load onto any kind of aerial logistics support aircraft (meaning, aircraft smaller than the C 130 can be used) is ideal, the amount of ammunition that can be transferred in a particular load compared to the corresponding number of rounds for the 155 mm guns being one.

As an incentive, it is worth looking up the amount of surplus 105 mm shells lying with a friendly country that collaborates with us on military production, shells that they cannot re-sell, and might well be willing to transfer for a relatively low price.
 

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That read good about the 105 mm guns (every gun is NOT a howitzer), but I am queasy about what's going on about ATAGS. There has been a smooth replacement of that by TAGS, to enable them to buy Israeli, and because ATAGS is 15 MT more than TAGS (or so they say).

That is definitely a backward step.

Are we being told that ATAGS cannot be refined over several iterations and made lighter? Can this heavy form of ATAGS not be placed at locations where a battery is needed, that need not move about too much (counter-battery fire will compel some movement)?
 

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There cannot be a more comprehensive replacement for the old IFGs than the Garuda 105.

It would be neat going from towed to self-propelled as well, not to mention it's a compact 4x4 truck so highly mobile even along the LAC.
Once it is truck-mounted, doesn't that count as self-propelled?
 

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Not yet.

It is proposed that we will buy and deploy those truck-mounted 105 mm guns designed by Kalyani, 200 of them. I am referring to that.

Yes that's why I said it would be neat to go from the old towed IFGs to the new self propelled Garuda 105s.
 

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"ATAGS has already finished all trials. My estimate is that the order should be placed in this financial year, before March 31, for 307 guns," Mr Kamat said.


 

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MGS on trials, K9 in the background

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