TR Indigenous Made Firearms & Medium Calibre Weapons

[Test7]

These are license built, right?

If I'm not wrong, the license has expired.

 

[Agha Sher]

If I'm not wrong, the license has expired.

How can they then produce them? wouldn't it be illegal? These are not original Turkish design, right?

 

[adenl]

How can they then produce them? wouldn't it be illegal? These are not original Turkish design, right?

I think the patent has expired and thus anyone can produce them without asking permission

 

[Combat-Master]

MKE has been busy, during a visit by Ukrainian Officials

Are these new sniper rifles/anti-material rifles ?

 

[Combat-Master]

Aselsan reflex sights

 

[Zafer]

Aselsan reflex sights

Mecanik, I don't need one but I want one.

 

[Inspector_spacetime]

İnaccurate news. SAR 762 machine gun can't be 12.7mm cal. as far as i see in those pictures the machine guns are 7.62x51mm caliber.

Nonetheless İt'smodel name 762 everything is obvious

I haven't read the arcticle, I just looked at the pictures. But I am sure there are some mistakes regarding the calibre. But Sarsilmaz is working on a 12.7 mm machine gun and is in prototype stage according to this post. While the 7.62 machine gun is in serial production, this is confirmed by the picture of serially produced machine guns from the article and in @Test7 's post.:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1353958637060894720

SARSILMAZ started to mass produce SAR 127 MT machine guns with a diameter of 7.62x51 mm. Machine guns with a diameter of 12.7x99 mm came to the prototype stage.

 

[Kartal1]

MKE has been busy, during a visit by Ukrainian Officials

Are these new sniper rifles/anti-material rifles ?
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The beast behind looks like slightly polished MAM-15 but the smaller beast looks like a new smaller caliber product with wide compensator seen sometimes with 338. lapua rifles. If we manage to develop such a beast it will be clearly a game changer on the field. The potential of that round is enormous and its usefulness on the field is still undisputed to this day.

 

[Stuka]

I was under the impression that the MKE PMT 76 and Sarsilmaz Sar 240 were two diffrent Projects but apparently the Development began under MKE leadership and the Project was later transferred to Sarsilmaz.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1366833526520307718

 

[Kartal1]

I was under the impression that the MKE PMT 76 and Sarsilmaz Sar 240 were two diffrent Projects but apparently the Development began under MKE leadership and the Project was later transferred to Sarsilmaz.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1366833526520307718

Sarsilmaz improved the quality of their firearms a lot. I am expecting even better things from them in near future.

 

[Inspector_spacetime]

I was under the impression that the MKE PMT 76 and Sarsilmaz Sar 240 were two diffrent Projects but apparently the Development began under MKE leadership and the Project was later transferred to Sarsilmaz.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1366833526520307718

The PMT is dating back all the way to 2017 (MKE MFY-71), the project's start was 2016 according to what I found on Google. There is also a video from 2017 of shooting tests conducted by MKE for MFY-71: http://www.millisavunma.com/mke-mfy-71-yerli-makineli-tufek/

Sarsilmaz's machine gun looks the same as MKE's machine gun, so they might be the same. It makes me wonder if Sarsilmaz is doing the serial production for it, similar to what they did with MPT 76, or if Sarsilmaz took over the development/joined the project of PMT at some point in time. On IDEF 2019, the machine gun was seen on the stance's of both Sarsilmaz and MKE so it could have been that the project was a co-development project with MKE and Sarsilmaz.

Machine gun on Sarsilmaz stand IDEF 2019: https://www.savunmahaber.com/en/sarsilmaz-starts-to-working-on-local-machine-guns/
On MKE IDEF 2019 stand: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5aN9GvWwAAJevy.jpg?format=jpg&name=orig

 

[yusuf]

usa will not use no more 7.62mm for 1200 yarda snipers
only 6.5mm creedmore because its more poweful and more accurate for that range

 

[TR_123456]

usa will not use no more 7.62mm for 1200 yarda snipers
only 6.5mm creedmore because its more poweful and more accurate for that range

You can copy paste pictures if you want to post them here.

 

[Hexciter]

usa will not use no more 7.62mm for 1200 yarda snipers
only 6.5mm creedmore because its more poweful and more accurate for that range

They use 6.5 mm as not powerful but lighter. Hence less deadly but have flatter trajectory hence more accurate and lose less speed.

 

[yusuf]

They use 6.5 mm as not powerful but lighter. Hence less deadly but have flatter trajectory hence more accurate and lose less speed.

E = mc2 speed is more important

 

[Hexciter]

E = mc2 speed is more important

Ballistics science more important

 

[yusuf]

they use 6.5 mm as a sniper suport role ,but snipers evolved to multi caliber sniper rifles

 

[Era_shield]

usa will not use no more 7.62mm for 1200 yarda snipers
only 6.5mm creedmore because its more poweful and more accurate for that range

Pretty cool. Although the diameter is smaller, the bullet mass is similar. Basically the 6.5mm bullet is longer and narrower and more aerodynamic, giving it longer range, better accuracy, and better penetration. The cartridge is overall a similar size to 7.62.

 

[yusuf]

better penetration is central mark of the ballistic science, soldier of modern armies use protective chest armour and they also improving

 

[CAN_TR]

The 6.5 Creedmoor can do nearly anything better than the 308./7.62 NATO but you see the differences after 600-700m so is it worth it to change? In my opinion not really since you have to ask yourself on which distances the most engagements happen and do you really need sniper support reaching the 1200m?

Biggest pro for the 7.62 NATO is that the barrel life is over twice as long as with the 6.5, which means the 7.62 is more economic in the long term.