Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Lordimperator]

USAAF only receive a handful of them.

American First, hehe. Btw how many f16/ fighter we needed for interceptor squad?

appologize my freind

No prob,

 

[trishna_amrta]

how many f16/ fighter we needed for interceptor squad?

F-16 weren't meant as interceptor, F-15 does. Skadud-14 The Eagles will need between 12 - 16 interceptor (budget permitting)

 

[trishna_amrta]

the other one is the geopolitical condition, most probably both SG and OZ will use their political pressure to US to not approve AU's procurement of 15EX since this will give some kind of chance for AU to have a slight nominal boost in strength (although not much)

For both and to do so would be shooting themselves on the foot. Both of them need a Strong, Stable, and Friendly

 

[Lordimperator]

and

Just let H20 or j20 passing to bombard

 

[RajaSultanKing]

For both and to do so would be shooting themselves on the foot. Both of them need a Strong, Stable, and Friendly

they do want us to be strong, stable and friendly in terms of geopolitical sense, but i don't think they want us to have an armed force that can threaten their power and hegemony in the region in the slightest sense especially taking into account their newest plaything (read: F-35)

 

[Umigami]

they do want us to be strong, stable and friendly in terms of geopolitical sense, but i don't think they want us to have an armed force that can threaten their power and hegemony in the region in the slightest sense especially taking into account their newest plaything (read: F-35)

Some Indonesian Eagle will never threaten them.

 

[trishna_amrta]

they do want us to be strong, stable and friendly in terms of geopolitical sense, but i don't think they want us to have an armed force that can threaten their power and hegemony in the region in the slightest sense especially taking into account their newest plaything (read: F-35)

*here we go again*

All the more reason to get Su-35 or jumping straight to Su-57 isn't it, Few full squadrons + a full squadron of strategic bomber such as Tu-95 will guarantee make "tetangga sebelah selatan ketar-ketir" . And adding nuclear ballistic missile will also a great addition.

I mean, just look it how great looking the Su-35

 

[RajaSultanKing]

*here we go again*

All the more reason to get Su-35 or jumping straight to Su-57 isn't it, Few full squadrons + a full squadron of strategic bomber such as Tu-95 will guarantee make "tetangga sebelah selatan ketar-ketir" . And adding nuclear ballistic missile will also a great addition.

I mean, just look it how great looking the Su-35

Naaah, i'm not into Russian fanboy stuff, just mentioning one of the possible conditions that might arise on Indonesian request of 15EX and also taking into account the KF-21 drama going on

getting rid of Su-27 and Su-30 is a good choice, but then again what would fill that gap since 15EX is still a long way to go and KF-21 is dust.... Eurofighter? Rafale? Gripen? Viper? or maybe J-10C lol

 

[Umigami]

Naaah, i'm not into Russian fanboy stuff, just mentioning one of the possible conditions that might arise on Indonesian request of 15EX and also taking into account the KF-21 drama going on

getting rid of Su-27 and Su-30 is a good choice, but then again what would fill that gap since 15EX is still a long way to go and KF-21 is dust.... Eurofighter? Rafale? Gripen? Viper? or maybe J-10C lol

I think EX will come first before Boramae.

 

[Madokafc]

Boramae even being reassambled again. The previous prototype is being hastily assembled just to impress certain haughty country customer. After that roll out they are quietly being reassambled and fixed again for possible first flight next year or two year thus killing the possibility for their to be mass produced soon (at least need five to six year more even to reach LRIP)

 

[Parry Brima]

INDONESIA/UNITED STATES : Indonesian defence minister appoints Qatar defense lobbyist in Washington to speed up defence deals - 29/06/2021 - Intelligence Online

Consultant Christopher Ott, who represents the Qatari defence conglomerate Barzan in Washington, has been hired to facilitate US defence sales to Jakarta, whose position has become strategic in the - 6/29/2021

www.intelligenceonline.com

Well according this article

The article doesn't mention anything about the need to hire the lobbyist to get F-15EX to be fair.

It's about availability of stock. The F-15EX is so brand new that even USAAF only receive a handful of them.
Anyway, we might as well adding Desert Falcon and add more Rafale order for interceptor role. Or go further by getting rid of our Sukhoi fleet altogether to cut overall cost.

If it's the availability issue then our best option is F-18E/F Super Hornet Block III. US Navy want to reduce their order as they want to reallocate the budget for the NGAD project. We can share the production line with the Germans later.

 

[flogger]

Then why the air force said that we will get F15EX starting from this year? Rafale is also included.

Indonesia Lirik Jet Tempur F-15 EX dan Dassault Rafale, Ini Kecanggihannya

Jet tempur F-15EX merupakan produk dari perusahaan dirgantara Boeing. Sementara Rafale dari perusahaan dirgantara Dassault di Prancis.

news.detik.com

It's becouse we asked them to

 

[flogger]

The article doesn't mention anything about the need to hire the lobbyist to get F-15EX to be fair

Well it's depend. if the contex is f 15 its just how Qatari get the eagle swiftly beside the funding thing that what MoD trying to achive ass well as the Qatari did.

 

[Parry Brima]

Well it's depend. if the contex is f 15 its just how Qatari get the eagle swiftly beside the funding thing that what MoD trying to achive ass well as the Qatari did.

Boeing themselves said this.

A Boeing spokeswoman could not confirm the planned purchase, but said “we remain confident in the F-15EX’s suitability for Indonesia, given its unmatched range, payload, and performance.”

Indonesia Could Be First Non-USAF Customer for F-15EX | Air & Space Forces Magazine

Indonesia plans to buy the Boeing F-15EX, expecting to take delivery by 2022, according to press reports from Jakarta.

www.airforcemag.com

Unless the US rejected us to get F-15EX and we're lobbying them to give us F-15QA (Qatar version) instead.

 

[Parry Brima]

Whenever there's argument between members about which fighter that we should purchase there's literally nobody mention Eurofighters.

Maybe if I put the pic together with Ms. Gadot in some sort of desperate attempt you'll start to notice.

 

[Gary]

Whenever there's argument between members about which fighter that we should purchase there's literally nobody mention Eurofighters.

Maybe if I put the pic together with Ms. Gadot in some sort of desperate attempt you'll start to notice.

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She's is thin, we like it thicc

 

[NEKO]

Whenever there's argument between members about which fighter that we should purchase there's literally nobody mention Eurofighters.

Maybe if I put the pic together with Ms. Gadot in some sort of desperate attempt you'll start to notice.

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I thought you are a Gripen stan, and why han's gf?

She's is thin, we like it thicc

F15EX is thiccer than the older variant.

 

[NEKO]

F15

F16

F18

Damn boi he thicc

 

[Umigami]

Whenever there's argument between members about which fighter that we should purchase there's literally nobody mention Eurofighters.

Maybe if I put the pic together with Ms. Gadot in some sort of desperate attempt you'll start to notice.

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Because fighter jet ecosystem is already too crowded here.

Also, That pic isn't working for me.

 

[Lordimperator]

impress certain haughty country customer

Did their attempt to impress the client successful?