Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

HellFireIndo

Committed member
Messages
284
Reactions
358
Well, F15K and SG are basically E model too but they still came out with their own nomenclature.

Damn that price tag though, let's put it down to 24 units and seal the deal!
Let's assume they are driving us to an edge here "I accept your offer if you accept our deal".

Well After all 36 > 24.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,503
Reactions
7 5,308
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Just realized that number:
20220211_090341.jpg

Balancing act.
 

JATOSINT 

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
2,254
Reactions
4 3,224
Website
twitter.com
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
But didn't they previously said that all new F15 will be designated as EX?

Well, F15K and SG are basically E model too but they still came out with their own nomenclature.

Damn that price tag though, let's put it down to 24 units and seal the deal!
As long as the fighter arrived in the country, I don't really care about the nomenclature

F-15JKW, F-15PS, sing penting dateng!
 
Last edited:

chiphocks

Committed member
Messages
218
Reactions
70
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

INDONESIA – F-15ID AIRCRAFT​

PDF Version
Press Release - Indonesia 22-13 CN.pdf
Media/Public Contact
[email protected]
Transmittal No
22-13
WASHINGTON, February 10, 2022 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Indonesia of F-15ID Aircraft and related equipment for an estimated cost of $13.9 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Indonesia has requested to buy up to thirty-six (36) F-15ID aircraft; eighty-seven (87) F110-GE-129 or F100-PW-229 engines (72 installed, 15 spares); forty-five (45) AN/APG-82(v)1 Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (36 installed, 9 spares); forty-five (45) AN/ALQ-250 Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability Systems (EPAWSS) (36 installed, 9 spares); forty-eight (48) Advanced Display Core Processor (ADCP) II digital computers (36 installed, 12 spares); eighty (80) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) (72 installed, 8 spares); ninety-two (92) Embedded Global Positioning Systems (GPS)/Inertial Navigation System (EGI) security devices; forty (40) AN/AAQ-13 LANTIRN navigation pods (36 installed, 4 spares); forty (40) AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods (ATP) (36 installed, 4 spares); one hundred fifty-six (156) LAU-128 launchers (144 installed, 12 spares); and forty (40) M61A “Vulcan” gun systems (36 installed, 4 spares). Also included are Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation (ACMI) (P5 CTS) training pods and support equipment; MS-110 Recce Pods; AN/ASG-34 Infrared Search and Track International; AN/ALE-47 counter-measures dispenser; AN/PYQ Simple Key Loaders; additional precision navigation, secure communications and cryptographic equipment; Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support; Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS); Night Vision Goggles (NVG) and support equipment and spares; conformal fuel tanks; chaff and flares; aircraft and personnel support and test equipment; pylons, launcher adaptors, weapons interfaces, fuel tanks, and attached hardware; travel pods, precision measurement equipment laboratory, calibration, and simulators; spare and repair parts, repair and return services; maps, publications, and technical documentation; studies and surveys; classified/unclassified software and software support; personnel training and training equipment; facilities and facility management, design and/or construction services; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated total cost is $13.9 billion.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of an important regional partner that is a force for political stability, and economic progress in the Asia-Pacific region. It is vital to U.S. national interest to assist Indonesia in developing and maintaining a strong and effective self-defense capability.
The proposed sale will improve Indonesia’s capability to meet current and future threats by enabling it to provide increased deterrence and air defense coverage across a very complex air and maritime domain. Indonesia will have no difficulty absorbing these aircraft and equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractor will be The Boeing Company, St. Louis, MO. The purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor.
Implementation of this proposed sale will require the assignment of fewer than 20 U.S. Government and contractor representatives to Indonesia to provide technical support for maintenance operations and to conduct flight and maintenance training.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.

All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, [email protected].
now that is a good news
my one question, what's the difference between F15EX and F15ID???
is it basically an export version of F15EX?
 

NEKO

Experienced member
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
3,191
Reactions
4 2,819
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
now that is a good news
my one question, what's the difference between F15EX and F15ID???
is it basically an export version of F15EX?
Nothing, just sales strategy I believe.
 

this is crunch

Contributor
Messages
657
Reactions
4 633
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Hawk? I think the priority is for F5 replacement, and also there is still plan to create new squadron.
well, IMO since we acquired 42 unit, either it can be split into two sq with 21 each or three sq with 12-12-18 or 14 equals, 21 for F5 in Magelang and 21 for Hawks in Pontianak to securing our new capital, while Hawks in Riau already compensate with the F16s.

But all in all i have no idea how the fighter distribution if we also count the Eagle 2
 

NEKO

Experienced member
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
3,191
Reactions
4 2,819
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
well, IMO since we acquired 42 unit, either it can be split into two sq with 21 each or three sq with 12-12-18 or 14 equals, 21 for F5 in Magelang and 21 for Hawks in Pontianak to securing our new capital, while Hawks in Riau already compensate with the F16s.

But all in all i have no idea how the fighter distribution if we also count the Eagle 2
4 to 5 squadron of Rafale and F15EX, enough to replace F5 and create several new squadron, previously there is no plan to replace the hawk just yet but perhaps the recent accident with hawk have changed the overall plan?
 

this is crunch

Contributor
Messages
657
Reactions
4 633
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
4 to 5 squadron of Rafale and F15EX, enough to replace F5 and create several new squadron, previously there is no plan to replace the hawk just yet but perhaps the recent accident with hawk have changed the overall plan?
maybe its just because the Hawks already too old and not feasible to be upgraded
 

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,915
Reactions
4 10,056
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
There is a needs to have at least three new squadron of fighter in eastern Indonesia (two around Sulawesi, Papua and Maluku, one in El Tari), one squadron to replace those F5 Tiger in Java island, (that's Made it four squadron).

Meanwhile there is talks about to merge those 23 plus 7 Hawk 209/109 into one big squadron (with many flight wing available for rotation duty around the clock) the preferable big squadron is Hawk squadron in Rusmin Nurjadin, this Made another squadron is free. So it Made Squadron Khatulistiwa is free and may become cutting edge squadron for Capital City protector squadron.

There is also planing at least one permanent base and a squadron of fighter in Natuna. So for now i can see at least six squadron worth of fighter needs.

---------
If all of those planning materialized, we can see

42 Rafale
36 F15ID

Plus 6 new T/A 50 golden eagle to make the original T/A 50 squadron into big size squadron

There is also newly build units of aircraft

9 units C212i (several had delivered)
7 unit CL415/515 amphibious aircraft
10 units H225M (with two VIP helicopters)
5 units C130J/30 Hercules
2 units A400M Airbus
1 A330 Superjet VIP
 

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,915
Reactions
4 10,056
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
The still gray matter for the Air Force, for current minimum esensial Forces phase

-Another Helicopters units for CSAR duty especially the heavier units
-AEW&C aircraft
-Another Cargo aircraft to support those fighter squadron, well you would need Cargo aircraft to bring logistic units around during deployment
- combat UAV and C4ISR stuff to be deployed around three ALKI points
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom