Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[wahyu845]

Discussing with US for F15 crew training with USAF and sending crew to KAI. But fail to pay our share (again) and no plan on green book!!!

Wth is going in here!?

whether procurement (F 15, KF 21, FREMM, SCORPENE) will be accelerated in the last 2 years of this cabinet term, we'll just have to wait

 

[Gundala]

about green book, I was talking about F15.

F-15 still has a long way to go, and there might be some things outside the procurement itself that need to be "addressed" first between two nations. But from my perspective everything has been progressing well enough in order for the acquisition plan to be confirmed and signed. Just dont expect it to happen in 2022. I am pretty sure Rafale will be the first priority compare to F-15. We are prolly looking for the year of 2024 for it to be signed formally at the earliest. Tho world and regional geopolitics/security might push the estimate scheduled a little bit early but priority & budget might be a burden if we try to push it to 2023.

 

[Gundala]

Waiting game is on, Let's wait until Indodefence first?
Is there any other way to finance weapons acquisition beside get them inside green book?

Yes there are some ways but attched to certain conditions. Some procurements might not be published for security reason or posted in a different way then usual in the name of secrecy. In short the total numbers of APBN might be right but some of the allocation might not be placed in the "right way" for reasons we will never know

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1530143574259400704

 

[Lordimperator]

Waiting game is on, Let's wait until Indodefence first?
Is there any other way to finance weapons acquisition beside get them inside green book?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1530268349615185922

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1530143574259400704

We usually sent fighter not delegation. My guess we'll send F-16 MLU fighters for this year's Pitch Black.

edit : I misinterpret delegation as observers lol

 

[Umigami]

Well, if we can get FX or Tempest japanese variant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1530388276758335488

 

[Lordimperator]

Well, if we can get FX or Tempest japanese variant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1530388276758335488

Lol if they will promoting 6th, France will be mad again.

 

[Gary]

We can't afford it anyway. Japanese products are excellent but mostly overpriced.

But it's good to know we have options.

 

[Madokafc]

If we can't get F35 at some point', it is better to have another option on the market. Though it would be in another decade question to come, at this point what Indonesian government need to do is securing funding for Rafale and F15EX acquisition

 

[Gundala]

If we can't get F35 at some point', it is better to have another option on the market. Though it would be in another decade question to come, at this point what Indonesian government need to do is securing funding for Rafale and F15EX acquisition

Indeed, funding projection is still cloudy imo specially if we looking from global economic & stability perspective (SM office/Bappenas perspective). On the other note global and regional security are also have to be taken into serious account. Seems like they are prioritizing to awaken all those "sleeping assets" via MRO or any other means. Military projects that involves domestic indsutry engagement also seems to be the next one on the list. That automatically put Rafale/EX list further down....

 

[Umigami]

Indeed, funding projection is still cloudy imo specially if we looking from global economic & stability perspective (SM office/Bappenas perspective). On the other note global and regional security are also have to be taken into serious account. Seems like they are prioritizing to awaken all those "sleeping assets" via MRO or any other means. Military projects that involves domestic indsutry engagement also seems to be the next one on the list. That automatically put Rafale/EX list further down....

eMLU our block 25 Falcon then.

 

[Umigami]

Can't communicate with "allies" huh?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533615101558722560

 

[Umigami]

Well, it's not like aircraft shelter could blend to its surroundings anyway.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533820868811292672

 

[Gary]

Well, it's not like aircraft shelter could blend to its surroundings anyway.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533820868811292672

Someone on the other side of the is giggling while reading this.

 

[Madokafc]

I don't see Indonesian air force has hardened hangar for the aircraft we had, nor underground hangar. Malaysia has underground hangar to store their MKM and i suspected Singapore too considering limited land they had

 

[Umigami]

I don't see Indonesian air force has hardened hangar for the aircraft we had, nor underground hangar. Malaysia has underground hangar to store their MKM and i suspected Singapore too considering limited land they had

IDAF: Where is the money?

 

[Gary]

Indonesian airbase are very simple compared to other countries airbase. Not to mention most runways are dual use for civilian -military purpose.

I don't mind if we don't have HAS though. It's useless against deep penetration bomb. But imo, the planes need to be separated with individual hangar for safety reasons.

like this :

Instead of this :

 

[chibiyabi]

k wk wk meanwhile few A type airbase still don't have permanent fighter squadron wk wk wk wk

 

[Umigami]

Tipikal tempat parkir kantoran dan sekolahan lol

Typical office and school parking lol

Actually TNI just use typical US homeland parking lot style.

But this is US homeland I'm talking about, where they never get bombed even when WW2.