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16th Sqn merged with 3rd Sqn or keep the two squadron separate within one home base ?

12th Sqn merged with 1st Sqn or vice versa, whomever no longer operate Hawks will be first to operate Rafale

11th Sqn F-15ID

14th Sqn F-15ID

Another 2 squadron with Rafale
 

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Ministry of Defense: KF-21 will be part of Indonesia's air defense system

September 28, 2022 / by Author
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AIRSPACE REVIEW (airspace-review.com) – Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia M. Herindra said the KF-21 Boramae fighter jet has strategic value and will be part of Indonesia's air defense system.

This was said by M. Herindra to the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Korea His Excellency Lee Jong-Sup while attending the Ceremony of Celebration of KF-X/IF-X (KF-21) at Sacheon Air Base, South Gyeongsang, South Korea on Wednesday, September 28 .

It is said, the successful test flight of the KF-21 prototype is a tangible form of the successful development of this fighter aircraft, and is a long-awaited progress.

Also present at the meeting the Minister of DAPA (Defense Acquisition Program Administration) Mr. Eom Dong Hwan, "Indonesia may be optimistic that one day the KF-21 Boramae will become part of the Indonesian air defense system," said the Deputy Minister of Defense as quoted from the press release of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense (Kemhan).

The Deputy Minister of Defense added that the KF-X/IF-X program is a joint development program carried out by the two countries, namely the ROK and Indonesia.

It was explained that the journey of this cooperation program was quite long, starting with the signing of the Letter of Intent (LOI) by the two countries in 2009.

Then, in the process of this cooperation, it also underwent renegotiation until it finally succeeded in reaching a more solid agreement in November 2021 by deliberation when the two parties had reformulated a joint agreement, the Ministry of Defense wrote.

"In 2022, this program is already at the Engineering Manufacture Development (EMD) stage. This is a stage where several prototype aircraft have been produced that are ready for flight testing," said the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia.

The Indonesian Deputy Minister of Defense M. Herindra considered that the KF-X/IF-X Development Program is one of the national programs that has strategic value for the Indonesian nation, because it aims to meet the needs of the Indonesian Air Force fighter aircraft for the period 2025-2040.

Therefore, regarding the process of technology transfer that has been mutually agreed upon, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia hopes that it will run in harmony with the operational requirements of a main weapon system tool (alutsista), to support Indonesia's ideals in developing and utilizing the National Defense Industry.

In addition, this program is also beneficial for increasing the capacity of the human resources of both countries.

Indonesia has sent 37 engineering personnel and two test pilot personnel from the Indonesian Air Force who are internationally certified to participate in activities in South Korea as an effort to transfer technology.

Indonesia is targeting to send 100 engineer personnel, who will rotate to participate in the program in South Korea.

This program has been started since September 2021 and is expected to be completed in mid-2026.

 

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16th Sqn merged with 3rd Sqn or keep the two squadron separate within one home base ?

12th Sqn merged with 1st Sqn or vice versa, whomever no longer operate Hawks will be first to operate Rafale

11th Sqn F-15ID

14th Sqn F-15ID

Another 2 squadron with Rafale
There are too many variables to count to in this case. To be honest I still doubt about the continuation of F15ID when are still pursuing IFX & Rafale. Tho the previous blue print is for Kupang (new fighters) & Sorong (any avaiable fighters) it can still be changed considering the 14th SQA now fill with F16. The 14th was meant to be filled with Heavy Fighters with a large coverage area, so I am not sure if those F16 are on a temp status or not.

I personally wanted to see if those A300 mrtt is going to be executed, if it becomes reality then the need for heavy fighters is lessen with the coming of air tankers.

As for Suokhoi lets see what kind of fighters we have in 2030, taking into account the geopolitics condition on that year we will then see what comes next. Until then the Rafale will keep on pouring until 2030 unless the new govt replace the plan...
 

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There are too many variables to count to in this case. To be honest I still doubt about the continuation of F15ID when are still pursuing IFX & Rafale. Tho the previous blue print is for Kupang (new fighters) & Sorong (any avaiable fighters) it can still be changed considering the 14th SQA now fill with F16. The 14th was meant to be filled with Heavy Fighters with a large coverage area, so I am not sure if those F16 are on a temp status or not.

I personally wanted to see if those A300 mrtt is going to be executed, if it becomes reality then the need for heavy fighters is lessen with the coming of air tankers.

As for Suokhoi lets see what kind of fighters we have in 2030, taking into account the geopolitics condition on that year we will then see what comes next. Until then the Rafale will keep on pouring until 2030 unless the new govt replace the plan...
more realistic if we stick to rafale, IFX, FA 50, from US just bring another Herky J, AWACS n Poseidon
 

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I personally wanted to see if those A300 mrtt is going to be executed, if it becomes reality then the need for heavy fighters is lessen with the coming of air tankers.
Yes need a330mrtt, Kfx cant use A400M tanker
 

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Both probe & drogue and flying boom are available in kf-21. IF-X's unique functionality will be tested in the prototypes allocated for Indonesia.
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I heard that all prototypes will be assembled within this year. Unit 5 will also appear soon.
 
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Ministry of Defense: KF-21 will be part of Indonesia's air defense system

September 28, 2022 / by Author
Ministry of Defense RI


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AIRSPACE REVIEW (airspace-review.com) – Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia M. Herindra said the KF-21 Boramae fighter jet has strategic value and will be part of Indonesia's air defense system.

This was said by M. Herindra to the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Korea His Excellency Lee Jong-Sup while attending the Ceremony of Celebration of KF-X/IF-X (KF-21) at Sacheon Air Base, South Gyeongsang, South Korea on Wednesday, September 28 .

It is said, the successful test flight of the KF-21 prototype is a tangible form of the successful development of this fighter aircraft, and is a long-awaited progress.

Also present at the meeting the Minister of DAPA (Defense Acquisition Program Administration) Mr. Eom Dong Hwan, "Indonesia may be optimistic that one day the KF-21 Boramae will become part of the Indonesian air defense system," said the Deputy Minister of Defense as quoted from the press release of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense (Kemhan).

The Deputy Minister of Defense added that the KF-X/IF-X program is a joint development program carried out by the two countries, namely the ROK and Indonesia.

It was explained that the journey of this cooperation program was quite long, starting with the signing of the Letter of Intent (LOI) by the two countries in 2009.

Then, in the process of this cooperation, it also underwent renegotiation until it finally succeeded in reaching a more solid agreement in November 2021 by deliberation when the two parties had reformulated a joint agreement, the Ministry of Defense wrote.

"In 2022, this program is already at the Engineering Manufacture Development (EMD) stage. This is a stage where several prototype aircraft have been produced that are ready for flight testing," said the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia.

The Indonesian Deputy Minister of Defense M. Herindra considered that the KF-X/IF-X Development Program is one of the national programs that has strategic value for the Indonesian nation, because it aims to meet the needs of the Indonesian Air Force fighter aircraft for the period 2025-2040.

Therefore, regarding the process of technology transfer that has been mutually agreed upon, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Indonesia hopes that it will run in harmony with the operational requirements of a main weapon system tool (alutsista), to support Indonesia's ideals in developing and utilizing the National Defense Industry.

In addition, this program is also beneficial for increasing the capacity of the human resources of both countries.

Indonesia has sent 37 engineering personnel and two test pilot personnel from the Indonesian Air Force who are internationally certified to participate in activities in South Korea as an effort to transfer technology.

Indonesia is targeting to send 100 engineer personnel, who will rotate to participate in the program in South Korea.

This program has been started since September 2021 and is expected to be completed in mid-2026.

I just...

...desperately want to hear or read the official announcement that we have freakin' finally paid our debt in the program!
 

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Both probe & droge and flying boom are available in kf-21. IF-X's unique functionality will be tested in the prototypes allocated for Indonesia.
On one hand, this is good news since that means after Su-27/30 retirement, Rafale won't be the only frontline fighter type in the TNI-AU service that uses the probe & drogue method.

On another hand, I feel like it will be better if we just stick with the flying boom method to cut back development times and reduce complexity as well.
 

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