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KFX prototype 005 is planned to be handed over to us by 2026. I think safe to say that is when we have to pay all our contribution.
 

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I also shared the same idea of skipping the 5th gen and go directly to the 6th gen, but is it feasible in terms of SDM dan experience?
If we go that way, I think Tempest is the right choice.
 

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Though i much more worry on how the European doing their work, as you can see Rafale and Euro Fighter program is previously plague by severe delay and cost overrun. I would not say American don't have such tendencies lately, but American has knack to do the jobs rightly when they are hard Pressed, also almost 1 trillion US Dollar defense budget is no joke at all compared to whatever resources those European has to offer. Well, i am suspected the American would have their NGAD (USAF) and F/AXX (USN) program completed first before their European counterpart. As at the same time, American has working prototype for their loyal wingman fighter as inseparable part of Sixth generation fighter while i don't see the European has working projects except for the Turkish ones.
 

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I think the same goes with the F-35.

I mentioned it,
I would not say American don't have such tendencies lately, but American has knack to do the jobs rightly when they are hard Pressed,

But lately their program is on track, the likes of US Australian Ghostbat, B21 Raider, and so on.
 

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I mentioned it,


But lately their program is on track, the likes of US Australian Ghostbat, B21 Raider, and so on.
will they made export ver. of Ghostbat? loyal wingman might be good complement for AURI.
 

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There is two workhorse aircraft of Indonesian Air Force today, F-16 and Hawk 109/209
 

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I also shared the same idea of skipping the 5th gen and go directly to the 6th gen, but is it feasible in terms of SDM dan experience?

After 42 Rafale it's the most logical thing to do.

We are currently starting our deep defense cooperation with the French, so hopefully they also see us as one of the users of their next fighter generation and help us prepare ourselves for whatever they plan to offer us in the future.
 

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