Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[NEKO]

But, I believe with a good calculation, good logistic and well planned tactic by mixing the air support asset whether its a UAV, Choppers or fixed aircraft that doesn't matter as long the ready to deploy, we can achieve our air superiority

Fixed wing is good.

But air superiority already achieved though, and without much efforts because there is no opposing air force and no threat (ground based) for our fixed or rotary wing yet, it just that we don't have many equipments (type and number) to conduct military ops.

 

[morningstar]

Don't ask me why they QRT persit account and not the Army's account instead

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1390048823444000770

Serah ibu-ibu dah

Well, let assume to cover 10 acre area that been suspected as hiding place for those insurgents we need 2 choppers for air cover and monitoring asset.

Yup, first we have to contained their suspected pockets. But the problem is i don't think common Thermal Imaging Camera on air assets can tracks what below the tree aka not see through the forest canopy, at least not easily. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[NEKO]

Serah ibu-ibu dah


Yup, first we have to contained their suspected pockets. But the problem is i don't think common Thermal Imaging Camera on air assets can tracks what below the tree aka not see through the forest canopy, at least not easily. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It can.
Unlike the normal camera that you need to have clear Line of sight, the thermal imaging camera can capture more than just the real object it self (like the target object became bigger in the screen), because human body would emit heat so it just like its kinda glowing.

 

[morningstar]

It can.
Unlike the normal camera that you need to have clear Line of sight, the thermal imaging camera can capture more than just the real object it self (like the target object became bigger in the screen), because human body would emit heat so it just like its kinda glowing.

We are talking about thick forest canopy here, that just like a roof, not talking about game like environment here.

 

[morningstar]

Maybe kill the trees around the suspected pockets will works. So basically we make a kind of no man's lands around their pockets.

If someone in or out that suspected pockets, that can be easily seen because nothing blocks the view for Thermal Imaging or personals guarding around.

Or just use CW. "Cause madame, we are talking about time and cost efficiency here".

We can plan anything, even the possible controversial one, about it will be used or not is about the one in highest hierarchy, the one in lower hierarchy can only give options.

 

[BBOn]

Serah ibu-ibu dah


Yup, first we have to contained their suspected pockets. But the problem is i don't think common Thermal Imaging Camera on air assets can tracks what below the tree aka not see through the forest canopy, at least not easily. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Dont worry, It can . Why, because they will showing them self and start to fire at you when you already on their fire range ( Based on their stupid habits, to shoot first, ask questions later). what you need is some maneuver to minimize your disadvantage and the rest depend on your tracers and rocket pod. As soon you open fire, based on smoke and loud of sound plus wind direction, your ground unit will definitely know where the source come from, how to approach and sweap those area and sometimes, it is the ground unit who contact with the target first and asked the air unit to swarming a certain area to give ground unit another advantage.

The tip of the spear is always ground unit. The air unit is only for support. Even if the air unit can make a score that doest mean air unit can do the same job like what ground unit can do regarding area ground control. Cmiiw

 

[morningstar]

underground unit

What the hell? subterranean warfare unit against OPM? Wkwk

Dont worry, It can . Why, because they will showing them self and start to fire at you when you already on their fire range ( Based on their stupid habits, to shoot first, ask questions later). what you need is some maneuver to minimize your disadvantage and the rest depend on your tracers and rocket pod. As soon you open fire, based on smoke and loud of sound plus wind direction, your underground unit will definitely know where the source come from, how to approach and sweap those area.

Put Napalms and burn them all, forget about rockets, just fry them. I don't know why, but I like to obliterate anything if we really choose to make it all out war against them, maybe I have a psychopathic tendencies wkwk.

 

[NEKO]

Put Napalms and burn them all, forget about rockets, just fry them. I don't know why, but I like to obliterate anything if we really choose to make it all out war against them, maybe I have a psychopathic tendencies wkwk.

 

[morningstar]

Shut up. We are talking about the future of our country here.

 

[BBOn]

Put Napalms and burn them all, forget about rockets, just fry them. I don't know why, but I like to obliterate anything if we really choose to make it all out war against them, maybe I have a psychopathic tendencies wkwk.

Well you forget your ground unit also can get fry aswell dont you

 

[BBOn]

Shut up. We are talking about the future of our country here.

Well, I believe OPM thinks the same as well

 

[NEKO]

While napalm is not prohibited as long as it is not used around civilian populations, CW is out of the question, also we are signatories of CWC.

 

[trishna_amrta]

How good it will be if we apply pagar betis ops now?

And what that would achieve It certainly work well if you're planning to contain or pushing back riot

 

[morningstar]

Well you forget your ground unit also can get fry aswell dont you

My ground unit not that stupid.

Well, I believe OPM thinks the same as well

Ahh whatever.

While napalm is not prohibited as long as it is not used around civilian populations, CW is out of the question, also we are signatories of CWC.

We can do anything as long no one knows it. Anything. That's why clandestine operation exists.

Was Operation Neptune Spear legal? No, US just illegally trespassed Pakistani airspace and territory. Were US military activities in Laos and Cambodia permissible? No, they just break an agreement, I forgot the name.

Just make sure all of that controversial stuff not going to the surface. Just keep that informations about illegal things for yourself.

 

[trishna_amrta]

But the problem is i don't think common Thermal Imaging Camera on air assets can tracks what below the tree aka not see through the forest canopy, at least not easily. Correct me if I'm wrong.

EXACTLY It can be done using the latest generation of thermal + deep learning algorithm. But even then when you factor in reaction time into the calculation mother nature still have the advantage. Our only advantage (at least at this time) is those guys isn't exactly the brightest in improvising day-to-day materials & equipments

 

[BBOn]

Well, still remember news about this one

Or news about this one

Picture number one is just ordinary 40mm used cartridge.
Picture number two is someone with burn wounds. Issued this both picture, all nation that supports the freedom of papuan people will condemn us for violating human rights for using phosphorus weapon agaist civilian.

Berita yang gak bnr aj di buat bnr ma mereka apalagi sekelas napalm.

 

[morningstar]

Well, still remember news about this one View attachment 20519
Or news about this one View attachment 20520

Picture number one is just ordinary 40mm used cartridge.
Picture number two is someone with burn wounds. Issued this both picture, all nation that supports the freedom of papuan people will condemn us for violating human rights for using phosphorus weapon agaist civilian.

Berita yang gak bnr aj di buat bnr ma mereka apalagi sekelas napalm.

40mm are used everywhere, how stupid tankies that supports them. And what is on that 2nd picture btw?

No joke, their supporters are bunch of stupid staunch Buruh-Tani supporters that don't know how this world works. They don't bring any solutions for things, it's the worst.

Doesn't mean I don't think about the fate of buruh-tani (that has the tragic fate especially), but I see at the bigger picture, how the GDP of certain country can grow if there is no one investing right there. And also it is the freedom of all to have a business/private enterprise.

@trishna_amrta just please help me with this goddammit, I know you are free market supporter. Even though you are a Republican, but I'm a centrist pragmatic Democrat here. I'm your friend on that matter, forget that staunch socialist AOC and Bernie.

 

[NEKO]

Well, still remember news about this one View attachment 20519
Or news about this one View attachment 20520

Picture number one is just ordinary 40mm used cartridge.
Picture number two is someone with burn wounds. Issued this both picture, all nation that supports the freedom of papuan people will condemn us for violating human rights for using phosphorus weapon agaist civilian.

Berita yang gak bnr aj di buat bnr ma mereka apalagi sekelas napalm.

I think it is not allowed to post that picture in here.

Any material showing gore/after effects of violence/ graphic things or adult material (pornography) is strictly not allowed on DefenceHub.

 

[morningstar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1390611846718050307

For example, this guy was Retweeted by Veronica Koman. In his Twitter, he is I assume have the tendency of supporting PSI (Syahrir's party) and also in the same time condemning capitalism. Is he not see at history or what? , Syahrir's PSI at late 50s were ok with Private Enterprise. And also who he think the teacher of the "Berkeley Mafia"? That PSI guy that ok with capitalism, Prabowo's father.

Just see at his Twitter can shows how stupid are OPM supporters. Sok-sok progresif, tapi kebijakan ekonominya sclerosis gak bisa beradaptasi, bahkan RRC lebih bagus, staunch pragmatis sekarang, mereka isinya pengusaha swasta banyak. Sorry I used Bahasa, I think that words there the punchline that have to be in Bahasa.

 

[morningstar]

I think it is not allowed to post that picture in here.

Any material showing gore/after effects of violence/ graphic things or adult material (pornography) is strictly not allowed on DefenceHub.

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