Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

[R4duga]

Sabrah and Harimau, too high profile even compared to the already high Harimau. Also we can see the Sabrah are definitely IFV slapped with tank turret, compared to originally designed as a tank platform of harimau. Can't see the detail of their sensor equipment, their tank gun is definitely low recoil gun Elbit system (license variant from L7 LRF) compared to high pressure 105 mm cockerill gun of Harimau View attachment 51062 View attachment 51063

and the belgium mecar M1060cv 105mm APFSDS Round actually had a quite nasty performance too, 560mm RHA Penetration at 2kms with 60 degree AOA, they still can manage to slice through soviets/russian T-72 Series at miles away.

 

[Umigami]

their tank gun is definitely low recoil gun Elbit system (license variant from L7 LRF)

Low recoil doesn't really mean low pressure, is it?

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599233550691184640

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1599233550691184640

TriSula? Samp-T?

 

[Lordimperator]

D

TriSula? Samp-T?
View attachment 51084
View attachment 51085

Patriot ?

 

[Umigami]

D

Patriot ?

Patriot doesn't use vertical launch method like that.
if we ignore their 3D model shape, it's more likely KM-SAM for me.

 

[Lordimperator]

Looks identical with Chinese fd50p uav

You could by the chinese drone here

https://www.droneassemble.com/product/vtol-uav-15kgs-payload-2-4-hours-endurance-mtow-50kgs-vtol-frame-kit/

 

[FPXAllen]

Looks identical with Chinese fd50p uav

You could by the chinese drone here

https://www.droneassemble.com/product/vtol-uav-15kgs-payload-2-4-hours-endurance-mtow-50kgs-vtol-frame-kit/

This is precisely why I'm hesitant to write and publish anything about such tests unless I'm convinced that what they're testing is not something that was bought abroad and has been rebranded or only slightly tweaked.

 

[Var Dracon]

Looks identical with Chinese fd50p uav

You could by the chinese drone here

https://www.droneassemble.com/product/vtol-uav-15kgs-payload-2-4-hours-endurance-mtow-50kgs-vtol-frame-kit/

This is precisely why I'm hesitant to write and publish anything about such tests unless I'm convinced that what they're testing is not something that was bought abroad and has been rebranded or only slightly tweaked.

Similar but not the same. It has no sharp/noticeable lines between upper and lower part of fuselage. The inverted V-tail is different too, the Chinese one has horizontal area in the middle. The shape of the winglet is different. The landing gear is different. The "reccomended set-up" for the Chinese UAV can be readily bought by civilians (not sure about Nexin UAV). Also the Chinese one has no swivelable optical system.

 

[Lordimperator]

Also the Chinese one has no swivelable optical system.

The chinese made the uav is customizable, and LOS uav.The landing gear, the tail fin could be modified.

Here is the one of the examplewith optical system,

YANGDA FW-250 Fixed Wing VTOL Plane

Modular Design Airframe | 12KG MTOW | Reliable And Affordable

www.yangdaonline.com

This product is no longer available.

This product is no longer available.

m.alibaba.com

well i dont mine its rebranded or not as long as its works.

 

[Madokafc]

Quite interesting video about recent army deployment in Papua. They even built log forts in the middle of Woods (seem forward base and logistic warehouse for the "Hunter" in the area)

There is also a lot of up armoured trucks and SUV and they are quite similar in appearance

 

[Umigami]

German tank maker KMW has no orders, accused Rheinmetall too

bulgarianmilitary.com

Well, we could consider your A7 if the price is right.

Although I personally prefer Sep V3 for this 2nd batch MBT.

 

[Var Dracon]

German tank maker KMW has no orders, accused Rheinmetall too

bulgarianmilitary.com

Well, we could consider your A7 if the price is right.

Although I personally prefer Sep V3 for this 2nd batch MBT.

Would Indonesia spare 22 million USD each for new 2A7? I doubt it

Probably will buy upgraded 2A4 instead

 

[Umigami]

Would Indonesia spare 22 million USD each for new 2A7? I doubt it

Probably will buy upgraded 2A4 instead

According to her, we consider it.

Just for a record, in near future Indonesian Army would likely to adding more MBT as there is plan to create several Armored Brigade Combat Team including one in future capital and dedicated KOSTRAD ABCT, but the system is still at large as there is a lot of lesson and plan in which what are the next MBT the Army would chose.

Abrams latest variant in export market M1A2 SEPV3, K2 Black Panther, LEOPARD 2 A7 and ALTAY is in serious consideration

As far as I know, there aren't many Leo2a4 remain in the European storage anymore.
If money becomes obstacles I would choose K1A2.

 

[Lordimperator]

If money becomes obstacles I would choose K1A2

Cheaper?

 

[Umigami]

Cheaper?

Yeah. And it use L44 just like our Leo. We procure some of our 120 mm munition from Korea. It has K2 electronics too.

 

[Lordimperator]

L44 just like our Leo

Nah its l55,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600081385439432706

K2 arrived at Poland. what are the boxy panel on the edge of the turret? Aps radar?


Just realized its cheaper, more than half price of Qatari leos

 

[Parry Brima]

Would Indonesia spare 22 million USD each for new 2A7? I doubt it

Probably will buy upgraded 2A4 instead

2A7 cost $22 mil apiece? Dayum.

It'd be hard to see $22 mil tank destroyed by $40k ATGM.

 

[Parry Brima]

If money becomes obstacles I would choose K1A2.

Abrams M1A2 SEPV3 seems to be the cheaper option at about $6 mil per tank (2017 deal for US Army, CMIIW).

 

[Umigami]

Abrams M1A2 SEPV3 seems to be the cheaper option at about $6 mil per tank (2017 deal for US Army, CMIIW).

Wikipedia data:
K1A2: 6 billion won = 4.5 million USD