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he is always doing so, don't know what he is trying to portray lately


if shit happen (god forbid) those can be revived again with some summoning rituals

Marines need working amphibious APC, more lethal individual firepower at platoon level (ATGM, RPG's and Manpads), more secure comms and support tools (NVG, thermal scopes, mobile jammer and GPS devices and so on)
 

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The operational cost and logistics for gas turbines as the main engines that Maestrale have will go through the roof. And there's also the rumored Pohang class.



it just the operational cost increasing consideration is still need time until the said assets already come and operational. Meanwhile the Navy is starting to retired their old assets already and itching to retire those Van Speijk class and the rest of East German old stocks
 

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Marines need working amphibious APC
Then tell me, its better to have wheeled or tracked ?

Last time marine has wheeled it was BTR - 82 (I don't know how the fate of BTR - 4 they say it was too dangerous to employ while the sea isn't calm)

oh yes, please don't say NVG, even at best marine only Equipped with SS1 iron sight. Although ATGM and so on is mandatory, i hope marine and all branch of armed forces give ballistic vest Lv 3/4, and NVG, atleast if they cant provide Scope, pelase buy them wit AN/PEQ
 

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Then tell me, its better to have wheeled or tracked ?

Last time marine has wheeled it was BTR - 82 (I don't know how the fate of BTR - 4 they say it was too dangerous to employ while the sea isn't calm)

oh yes, please don't say NVG, even at best marine only Equipped with SS1 iron sight. Although ATGM and so on is mandatory, i hope marine and all branch of armed forces give ballistic vest Lv 3/4, and NVG, atleast if they cant provide Scope, pelase buy them wit AN/PEQ

the last time i got news, they are considering AAV7 families and there is also ZAHA
 

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Zaha vs AAV7 which one do u personally prefer?

AAV7, second hand grants one if refurbished is already enough for our current needs.

The money should be allocated to get more individual equipment of our Marines and upgrade them into another level and to acquire more artillery and air defense system to support them, with only around 18 pieces of 105mm howitzer and around 20's of 122mm caliber MLRS is very lacking, they need more of them. Also, those 37 mm AA gun need replacement ASAP, bought MANPADS like Piorun or the likes is preferable for now if they don't have money for shiny items like Korkut and the likes.
 

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Hemm......
I wonder what will they add in those refurbished other than digital control and radios. RCWS, nahh that to expensive.


Can we ask Murice to donate their M2 from WW2, Korean, Vietnam era too? 😁
But, Forget about accuracy wkwk


Give that 61 - k back to moseum and start buying coldwar era MANPADS, Igla like maybe.

American still have a lot of M109 155 mm howitzer lying in their dessert, even they offered the Malaysian and Malaysia just need to cash out some money to refurbish them....

South Korean have Chiron or better follow the Army footstep and get Starstreak, they are currently one of the best out there, just put the launcher above any 4X4 double cabs SUV, and you would get poorman mobile AA system.
 

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Well, if that stuff can be bought and give to Army i think it's will booster up their ranks. But if it was for Marine i think they will be have hard time to deploy it. 🤔 can we just use LST Lada to make it ashore ?

What i try to say here, what is best for marine corps artillery Bat? Towed or self propelled one. Last time we heard rumor that Marine want to buy wheeled 155 gun from Europe

This one also good, but sadly sokor didn't make the over shoulder one.
Starstreak
Few weeks ago i've read that the user of Starstreak is prone to death since must guide the munition until last impact. But Britons offer low speed light weight one with IR homing called martlet, i think that stuff also good.
 

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Also, with advances in technology, there is a third option that offers a middle ground: rubber tack
Did you mean rubber track? It's still counted as tracked, no?

If it's about the method of amphibious mobility, aside from tracked or wheeled, there's only one other that I can think of: hovercraft.
 

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Well, if that stuff can be bought and give to Army i think it's will booster up their ranks. But if it was for Marine i think they will be have hard time to deploy it. 🤔 can we just use LST Lada to make it ashore ?

What i try to say here, what is best for marine corps artillery Bat? Towed or self propelled one. Last time we heard rumor that Marine want to buy wheeled 155 gun from Europe


This one also good, but sadly sokor didn't make the over shoulder one.

Few weeks ago i've read that the user of Starstreak is prone to death since must guide the munition until last impact. But Britons offer low speed light weight one with IR homing called martlet, i think that stuff also good.

except starstreak flew very fast

or getting m777 should be within consideration, they are kinda like the ultimate form of towed howitzer today.
 

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except starstreak flew very fast

or getting m777 should be within consideration, they are kinda like the ultimate form of towed howitzer today.
Talking about howitzer (105 & 155)

How do the army and marine corps still planning to upgrade their arsenal soon? Especially with the former one as there has been no follow-up purchases of SK-made howitzers
 

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Talking about howitzer (105 & 155)

How do the army and marine corps still planning to upgrade their arsenal soon? Especially with the former one as there has been no follow-up purchases of SK-made howitzers

The Army is in process to acquire new artillery tubes ( new towed howitzer in 155 mm class) and also including MLRS, also they would get short range ballistic Missiles.

The Marines still obscure in the tube artillery, but they would get new MLRS for sure.
 

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any news on progress of DRU, PT OPV 90 that's been conducted first steel cutting on August '21
 
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