Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Parry Brima]

These are OPVs not Corvettes, they perform the duty of OPV, they don't necessarily need more complex weaponries, all that would do just fine.

I'm probably mistaken what you said, but didn't you say you want this spec to be used to replace Parchim?

 

[Lordimperator]

they don't necessarily need more complex weaponries, all that would do just fine

Except your neighbor is PLAN

Meet Kara (Land) Atmaca GLCM and Atmaca IIR. Both can be installed on ships and used as land-attack cruise missile with IIR seeker:

Price wise how much does it costs compared to the Exocet and NSM?

 

[Synders]

Everyone are talking about exocet, atmaca, & brahmos...
Is there any chance for otomat to come with FREMM???
Milasny menarik lho...
Wkwkwk...

 

[Gary]

Except your neighbor is PLAN

an OPV is an OPV, there's no need to ask so much from it. If anything ID should invest more in area denial and strategic munitions to tackle the PLAN. More submarines, more coastal missile, more frigates.

and oh, start appreciating the importance for airpower to do what it has done multiple times in the past.

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[Lordimperator]

Milasny menarik lho.

The only western made active ASROC alternate.
Also regarding FREMM based rumour from the twit, Fincantieri already prepared 2 slot, and ready to assits PAL to build the other 2. 2+2 maybe.
ASW FREMM will be fitted with Captas for hunting submarine, finally a proper Parchim ASW replacement, of they go for it.

 

[Lordimperator]

an OPV is an OPV, there's no need to ask so much from it. If anything ID should invest more in area denial and strategic munitions to tackle the PLAN. More submarines, more coastal missile, more frigates.

and oh, start appreciating the importance for airpower to do what it has done multiple times in the past.

Rewind to wwii kinda to far, atleast the Falkland war give more up to date the lessons

 

[Anmdt]

Price wise how much does it costs compared to the Exocet and NSM?

Not sure with the exact cost but Atmaca RF - IIR should be sufficiently cheap compared to Exocet / NSM.

 

[Lordimperator]

Not sure with the exact cost but Atmaca RF - IIR should be sufficiently cheap compared to Exocet / NSM.

But if these missiles are ordered, it better be in bulks and locally produced in Indonesia

Hopefully this magic word could convince higher ups if they really aimed for trigger local industry, unlike back then with the C series family. Also i think the quality is unquestionable good.

 

[this is crunch]

Regarding to number of ship that will be built by or with PT. PAL just doesn't make any sense, 2 AH 140, rumoured 2 SSV for Phillipine, and 2 Fremm Bergamini, with just one 230m ship-assembly dry docks wont be any sufficient to catch up with deadline

 

[Lordimperator]

Regarding to number of ship that will be built by or with PT. PAL just doesn't make any sense, 2 AH 140, rumoured 2 SSV for Phillipine, and 2 Fremm Bergamini, with just one 230m ship-assembly dry docks wont be any sufficient to catch up with deadline

Dont forget the UEA 163 MRSS

 

[rai456]

Easy of maintenance and more economical

I saw a post by a former US Navy sailor who was talking about why the Arleigh Burke-class is powered by 4 GE LM2500 gas turbines. He said that gas turbines required less maintenance and had a much better power to weight ratio. So the weight saved by using gas turbines instead of large diesels allows the Arleigh Burke-class to carry more weapons while still providing plenty power.

 

[Cromwell]

I'm probably mistaken what you said, but didn't you say you want this spec to be used to replace Parchim?

Most of Parchim equipments already non functional when they served TNI-AL. I did say these OPVs to replace Parchim Class, Parchim Class all these years act more like OPVs than what originally built for

 

[Cromwell]

Except your neighbor is PLAN


Price wise how much does it costs compared to the Exocet and NSM?

When you have PLAN as your neighbour then it is not solely our duty to confront them, yes Natuna is a point of dispute between China and Indonesia but others have stake in international trade route solely claim by China, US, etc have stakes over SCS

 

[Madokafc]

KTT G20 security detail from Navy personel

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589843602506919940

 

[Madokafc]

Tactical data link certification process for KCR number 6 KRI PANAH, this ship is using Terma C Flex CMS, 57 mm Bofors Naval gun, Exocet missiles, 2X20 mm M71/08 yugoimport gun and Among other system.

PELAKSANAAN SERTIFIKASI KELAIKAN TACTICAL DATA LINK KCR 6 KRI PANAH-626 DI PT. PAL INDONESIA​

Monday, 7 November 2022

Surabaya(7/11), Marsma TNI Mohammad Yani Rudiansyah, S.T., S.I.P. selaku Kapuslaik Kemhan mengikuti kegiatan sertifikasi kelaikan Tactical Data Link KCR 6 KRI Panah-626 di PT. PAL Indonesia yang berada di Surabaya. Kegiatan tersebut dilaksanakan pada hari ini, Senin tanggal 7 November 2022 Pukul 09.00 WIB bertempat di Ruang Rapat PIP dan diterima oleh Laksda TNI AR. Agus Santoso selaku Senior Executive Vice President (SEVP).

Pada kegiatan sertifikasi tersebut, Kapuslaik Kemhan melaksanakan kunjungan KCR 6 KRI Panah-626, kemudian dilanjutkan dengan diskusi dan evaluasi tentang KCR 6 KRI Panah-626. Kapuslaik Kemhan didampingi oleh Kabid Laik Laut Kolonel Laut (T) Ir. Nono Suwarno, M.Si. selaku Ketua IDSA (Indonesian Defence Seaworthiness Authority) dan Tim Sertifikasi dari Puslaik Kemhan. Kegiatan berjalan lancar dengan selalu memperhatikan Protokol Kesehatan dan Pencegahan Covid-19.

 

[Mandala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589949469818294273

Lol at the comments.

 

[Parry Brima]

There are ten fast combatans products on TAIS website which might (or might not) relate to our deal to build two FAC.

There's one with 60m length and 400-ish tons (closest to Sampari-class size) called GMFPB or Guided Missile Fast Patrol Boat.

All Fast Combatans : https://www.taisshipyards.com/en/products/fast-combatants

 

[Cromwell]

From IDR Twitter account

 

[Gary]

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From IDR Twitter account

Interesting, never heard abt this before.

The Banda Aceh LPD sub-class is the direct successor of this project I think.