NG Needs lower their ego if they want to win its contract
Better: its not enough for Indonesia to only own SSK, we also need to have SSN.
giving discount from the initial 2.1 bil for 2 ssk might be a good start
Like the PLAN mixmax their ssk and ssn per their own roles
reading their conversation, Is Fincantiery's 212 for Indonesia real 212?
Our nagapasa class are operational.
Both are opinion from frenchs and germans which questionings U212NFS export legality assuming the type being offered by fincantieri is the same ones being made for Italian navy.
There is only one 'real 212' in this country (IYKWIM
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Not usually, stripped off 'sensitive' equipment, and no non-magnetic steel.
smaller 214?
I think Bung Tomo upgrade is going with Thales, not Havelsan. I recall Havelsan have visited and inspected the vessels but it didn't work through.
Type 214 = Cheaper Type 212 and / or with less sensitive equipment available for export. Identical in dimension.
I heard subs with non-magnetic steel can't dive as deep as conventional one, so it's not that bad I guess.
there's no need to dive deeper, 100-300 meter is more or less common operating depth of submarine, non magnetic steel on 212 construction could also gain advantage against MAD sensor from maritime patrol aircraft.
Test depth or maximum rated depth may vary, but maximum operational depth would remain the same, in my opinion.
