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actually without competing interests, a weapons procurement could be very simple thing to do.
Competition ie. a tender would make it a lot faster.
Bargaining ie. visiting each electronics supplier one by one and trying to break price down keeps it getting longer and not an easier to way get lower prices, instead it can even increase the prices. Companies tend to like loyal customers to safely deliver technology and maintenance capabilities so that it can ease their burden: not easy to schedule, dispatch expats and spare parts thousand miles away and manage stocks for each country they have worked with.

I happened to see some electronics suppliers prefer to bid lower when they sense an "easiness" in procurement and contracts,especially to a loyal customer.
I also happened to see that same system was being sold twice as expensive just because the supplier has known how problematic that country was and caused procurement to be tedious and prone to be failed.

I have been telling for years, a country like Indonesia with a great appetite of procurements to happen in next decade should choose permanent suppliers for certain parts and keep it that way and move on to local systems when local industry has matured.
It doesn't take forever though...
Especially when the contractor has already built similar ships and worked with numerous suppliers.
 

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It will be better without the annoying music.
what would you expect? every dispen's video most of all if not all of them always accompanied by annoying rock music/EDM music which is not so relevant with the video
 

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what would you expect? every dispen's video most of all if not all of them always accompanied by annoying rock music/EDM music which is not so relevant with the video
Come to think of it... Usually promotional alutsista videos of foreign companies has matching or good music
 

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If the marines want to continue, it is probably better the BTR 4mv1 version.
 

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there's a rumor lately about type 31 frigate were on the table or they misinterpret babcock involvement in iver program as an offering for their type 31,
any opinion about that?
 

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there's a rumor lately about type 31 frigate were on the table or they misinterpret babcock involvement in iver program as an offering for their type 31,
any opinion about that?
this is what literally said in TNI AU threads page , the information got passed down and could get misinterpreted in the way .

some people thought because babcock involved, than that's mean they'd offer us the type 31 ...

but let see what the end spec will looks like . :)
 
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this is what literally said in TNI AU threads page , the information got passed down and could get misinterpreted in the way .

some people thought because babcock involved, than that's mean they'd offer us the type 31 ...

but let see what the end spec will looks like . :)

Ours Itver based Frigates and type 31 is in one big family as they both using Itver Huitveld design as base. And Indonesia along with Odense as principal owner of original design chose Babcock Shipyard as technical supervisor for the project as Odense doesn't have Shipyard industry anymore. There is several key difference between Type 31 and Indonesian variant, starting from choice of main sensor and CMS, main weapon system set, there is slightly differences in hull design along with compartment utility as Indonesia Navy dictated more room for long range patrol and so on.
 

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