Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[FPXAllen]

I am personally not like this kind of adventure and many in the Navy and MoD had the same opinion with me , good thing is for people i am know to handle the project they would not taking more of this and for why this **** being completed is this program being financed by budget from SBY admin and being delayed for almost a decade. That's why they prefer to allocated the limited fund for conventional OPV and big guys like Frigates or conventional KCR 60 class.

Figures.

 

[NEKO]

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Nice helmet, we can go with FFBNW for the NVG.

Already the best stealth ship in the world, even though it's just a prototype armed with 30mm (not yet installed), Independence class and visby mah lewat.

 

[NEKO]

I am personally not like this kind of adventure and many in the Navy and MoD had the same opinion with me , good thing is for people i am know to handle the project they would not taking more of this and for why this **** being completed is this program being financed by budget from SBY admin and being delayed for almost a decade. That's why they prefer to allocated the limited fund for conventional OPV and big guys like Frigates or conventional KCR 60 class.

I personally don't hate this kind of adventure, it can stimulate our indhan. About budget and priority, am not sure about the details but I think its not a priority program so it won't cost that much of money, it is better to use the money for this kind of thing rather than, acara2 resmi, kunjungan2, dll.

We won't be getting anoa, badak, maung, tankboat and this trimaran if we don't have the guts to develop it. Although the first product could be somewhat shit, its worth trying, priority? We just need to be smart to plan things out, building more capable platform and somehow experimenting with new stuff.

 

[Madokafc]

I personally don't hate this kind of adventure, it can stimulate our indhan. About budget and priority, am not sure about the details but I think its not a priority program so it won't cost that much of money, it is better to use the money for this kind of thing rather than, acara2 resmi, kunjungan2, dll.

We won't be getting anoa, badak, maung, tankboat and this trimaran if we don't have the guts to develop it. Although the first product could be somewhat shit, its worth trying, priority? We just need to be smart to plan things out, building more capable platform and somehow experimenting with new stuff.

Anoa, Badak, Maung by nature and by design along with their material is conventional to begin with, not to mention their Commercial off the shelf parts on which not necessisated high level of research and development in which reduced a lot of development cost. The tank boat is actually using the already existed platform and off the shelf solution

Btw before talking about experimenting thing and paid a lot of cost for it, better for Indonesia to paid their due to responsibilities cost for KFX project or paid the money for the follow on contract for subsequent Nagapasa class honestly

 

[Jaka45]

I found it interesting that in their latest FB Post. PAL explicitly mention about scorpene as example for their production capability instead of CBG.

https://www.facebook.com/638220153015141/posts/1731085870395225

 

[trishna_amrta]

CZ-805 everywhere.

CZ-805 really work , same thing with HK-416 . Really love those 2 platform

 

[trishna_amrta]

I personally don't hate this kind of adventure, it can stimulate our indhan.

YakinKamu kalau diberi pilihan untuk perjalanan pelesir non-stop dari Sabang sampai Merauke diantaara bulan September - Maret (berhenti hanya untuk angkut logistik saja) dengan pilihan itu kapal plastic atau kapal pinisi tradisional (dari kayu dengan teknik traditional) kamu pilih yang mana

Kalau saya sich langsung pilih kapal Pinisi traditional daripada kapal plastic, karna kaitannya dengan keselamatan diri.

 

[Lordimperator]

scorpene as example for their production capability instead of CBG.

Hmmmm, 4 subs at the same time?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

I found it interesting that in their latest FB Post. PAL explicitly mention about scorpene as example for their production capability instead of CBG.

https://www.facebook.com/638220153015141/posts/1731085870395225

and suddenly a bomb dropped on that obvious production plant.

 

[Umigami]

and suddenly a bomb dropped on that obvious production plant.

Well they are in proximity of koarmatim area so Navy supposed to be protecting them too.

Buuuuuuuut........

 

[Umigami]

YakinKamu kalau diberi pilihan untuk perjalanan pelesir non-stop dari Sabang sampai Merauke diantaara bulan September - Maret (berhenti hanya untuk angkut logistik saja) dengan pilihan itu kapal plastic atau kapal pinisi tradisional (dari kayu dengan teknik traditional) kamu pilih yang mana

Kalau saya sich langsung pilih kapal Pinisi traditional daripada kapal plastic, karna kaitannya dengan keselamatan diri.

Please use English only except warkop thread. I and Mado got "teguran" from big boss.

 

[wekiweko]

Btw before talking about experimenting thing and paid a lot of cost for it, better for Indonesia to paid their due to responsibilities cost for KFX project or paid the money for the follow on contract for subsequent Nagapasa class honestly

word

 

[NEKO]

Preparing for whole local production of submarine, PAL will get $88 million injection.

Hal ini sejalan dengan kelanjutan Program Strategis Nasional (PSN) pengembangan infrastruktur kapal selam terkait penguasaan teknologi pembangunan kapal dari joint section menjadi whole local production.

Pemerintah Suntik Modal Rp1,28 T untuk PT PAL Indonesia

Pemerintah menyuntikkan modal Rp1,28 triliun kepada PT PAL Indonesia. PMN tersebut berasal dari APBN 2021.

www.cnnindonesia.com

 

[Lordimperator]

joint section menjadi whole local production.

Sounds like changbogos ii batch, good tho atleast we could get 6 subs of it class

 

[NEKO]

Sounds like changbogos ii batch, good tho atleast we could get 6 subs of it class

Idk.

“Fasilitas hanggar kapal selam yang dimiliki PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) memiliki kapasitas produksi kapal selam secara bersamaan sebanyak 4 kapal selam jenis scorpene (atau sejenis) dan 2 kapal selam jenis midget berukuran 30 meter”

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Pemberian dana PMN pada PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) akan mendukung perwujudan Whole Local Production, selaras dengan yang dicita-citakan Menteri Pertahanan RI Letnan Jenderal TNI (Purn) Prabowo Subianto yaitu “Dalam 5 tahun akan datang, PT PAL Indonesia harus bisa memproduksi Kapal selam 100% mulai dari desain sampai senjatanya buatan Indonesia” ungkap Prabowo Subianto dalam pidatonya saat serah terima Kapal Selam Alugoro – 405, 17 Maret 2021.

Dapatkan PMN Rp 1,28 Trilliun, PT PAL Siap Produksi Kapal Selam Secara Whole Local Production

(Surabaya, 24 Agustus 2021) Sesuai dengan UU No.9 Tahun 2020, PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) mendapatkan Penyertaan Modal Negara (PMN) pada APBN Tahun Anggaran 2021 sebesar […]

pal.co.id

Is it possible?

 

[Anmdt]

Idk.

“Fasilitas hanggar kapal selam yang dimiliki PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) memiliki kapasitas produksi kapal selam secara bersamaan sebanyak 4 kapal selam jenis scorpene (atau sejenis) dan 2 kapal selam jenis midget berukuran 30 meter”

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Pemberian dana PMN pada PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) akan mendukung perwujudan Whole Local Production, selaras dengan yang dicita-citakan Menteri Pertahanan RI Letnan Jenderal TNI (Purn) Prabowo Subianto yaitu “Dalam 5 tahun akan datang, PT PAL Indonesia harus bisa memproduksi Kapal selam 100% mulai dari desain sampai senjatanya buatan Indonesia” ungkap Prabowo Subianto dalam pidatonya saat serah terima Kapal Selam Alugoro – 405, 17 Maret 2021.

Dapatkan PMN Rp 1,28 Trilliun, PT PAL Siap Produksi Kapal Selam Secara Whole Local Production

(Surabaya, 24 Agustus 2021) Sesuai dengan UU No.9 Tahun 2020, PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) mendapatkan Penyertaan Modal Negara (PMN) pada APBN Tahun Anggaran 2021 sebesar […]

pal.co.id

Is it possible?

One simply does not learn how to make submarines without actually making them.

 

[Madokafc]

Impossible, you even doesn't bother to nurture the subsystem industry in the first place

 

[GraveDigger388]

military_buzz on Instagram: "Mayan lah ya sambil nunggu yg dr Jepang.. eeehh... Emang jadi? 😆😆😆 #pertahanan #alutsista #tnial #dayaradarutama #opv #offshorepatrolvessel"

803 likes, 99 comments - military_buzz on August 25, 2021: "Mayan lah ya sambil nunggu yg dr Jepang.. eeehh... Emang jadi? 😆😆😆 #pertahanan #alutsista #tnial #dayaradarutama #opv #offshorepatrolvessel".

www.instagram.com

Eh? Which design?

 

[Lordimperator]

mulai dari desain

"Karya Anak Bangsa" label

 

[Anmdt]

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military_buzz on Instagram: "Mayan lah ya sambil nunggu yg dr Jepang.. eeehh... Emang jadi? 😆😆😆 #pertahanan #alutsista #tnial #dayaradarutama #opv #offshorepatrolvessel"

803 likes, 99 comments - military_buzz on August 25, 2021: "Mayan lah ya sambil nunggu yg dr Jepang.. eeehh... Emang jadi? 😆😆😆 #pertahanan #alutsista #tnial #dayaradarutama #opv #offshorepatrolvessel".

www.instagram.com

Eh? Which design?

British Lloyd's register, the classification society of Britain.
That gives slightest idea on who has supported the designer. But nice at least it is happening on a private shipyard.