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While i am not even sure about the OPVs as of now (despite of the source from the Jane's), i highly doubt this one for frigates as well.
Where will they get the sensors then? Havelsan doesn't provide any sensors.

Let's recall they couldn't even let go of Thales for upgrade of the Bung Tomo Class. Don't know the current status of that one.
 

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While i am not even sure about the OPVs as of now (despite of the source from the Jane's), i highly doubt this one for frigates as well.
Where will they get the sensors then? Havelsan doesn't provide any sensors.

Let's recall they couldn't even let go of Thales for upgrade of the Bung Tomo Class. Don't know the current status of that one.
So even it it is coming true, the only thing havelsan could provide is CMS ?
 

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So even it it is coming true, the only thing havelsan could provide is CMS ?
CMS, IPMS, Data distribution systems etc. Yes mainly the software and consoles and integration of weapons/sensors to the CMS.
 

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While i am not even sure about the OPVs as of now (despite of the source from the Jane's), i highly doubt this one for frigates as well.
Where will they get the sensors then? Havelsan doesn't provide any sensors.

Let's recall they couldn't even let go of Thales for upgrade of the Bung Tomo Class. Don't know the current status of that one.
Maybe it's just me, but my portion of salt, ketumbar and kemiri have often considerably increased when reading this kind of tweet from him lately. :unsure:
 

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kinda awkward, Installing Thales Hardware whilst denied their driver software.

Well, can' blame him tho. Its only a plan from a certain party. Can be done or not.

The official itself didn't release the design yet, and still long way to go.


Oh, this time i just realize Italian FREMM is already FFBNW with additional 2x 8 Space for Sylver A70 tho.
 

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kinda weird tho, coz French FREMM didnt have such accomodation. But if you put a detailed watch on Improved bergamini there's not much change, only add 2x 8 sylver and 2x dardo CIWS/bofors 40mm

For me, just let the boat arrive first, about any weaponery she will had i will consider it a miracle.
 

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For me, just let the boat arrive first, about any weaponery she will had i will consider it a miracle
Yes, i hope the latest covid variant wouldnt hinder these procurements.

coz French FREMM didnt have such accomodation
They eqiupped it on a few number of their aquitaine FREMM class, only 3 or 4 frigates has MdCN. While the Italian counterpart had none. They planned to put some A70 on heavy config PPA and their future KDDX.
 

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PT Len Modernization of KRI Usman Harun
Upgrades Weapon System Equivalent to New Warships



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PT Len Modernization of KRI Usman Harun
Upgrades Weapon System Equivalent to New Warships




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still use TACTICOS, well unless they consider to put CIWS this warship yet on par with GNR.

i am big fans of CIWS !
 

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PT Len Modernization of KRI Usman Harun
Upgrades Weapon System Equivalent to New Warships




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"Dalam pekerjaan ini Len sebagai main contractor-nya. Karena pengalaman Len sebagai mission system integration lebih cocok ketimbang Thales atau principal lain yang fokus hanya sebagai sub-system integrator (combat system, navigation system, communication system),” paparnya.

Menurutnya, Len sebagai industri dalam negeri akan menjadi owner atas semua detail teknis KRI Usman Harun setelah modernisasi. Hal ini akan memudahkan jika kedepannya, dilakukan pembaruan teknologi, dalam arti Len bisa melakukan integrasi teknologi baru tanpa harus melakukan kontrak dengan principal lain. Hal ini akan memberikan efisiensi waktu dan biaya untuk TNI AL.

“Len juga akan memasang produknya sendiri, yaitu Tactical Data Link, dan Integrated Communicatin System serta melibatkan perusahaan lokal galangan kapal dan perbaikan meriam,” katanya.


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i'm a bit confuse here, so, does Len provide Tactical Data Link along with their CMS but still using Thales sensor and hardware?, or they only integrate their datalink with Thales CMS and sensors?
 

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"Dalam pekerjaan ini Len sebagai main contractor-nya. Karena pengalaman Len sebagai mission system integration lebih cocok ketimbang Thales atau principal lain yang fokus hanya sebagai sub-system integrator (combat system, navigation system, communication system),” paparnya.

Menurutnya, Len sebagai industri dalam negeri akan menjadi owner atas semua detail teknis KRI Usman Harun setelah modernisasi. Hal ini akan memudahkan jika kedepannya, dilakukan pembaruan teknologi, dalam arti Len bisa melakukan integrasi teknologi baru tanpa harus melakukan kontrak dengan principal lain. Hal ini akan memberikan efisiensi waktu dan biaya untuk TNI AL.

“Len juga akan memasang produknya sendiri, yaitu Tactical Data Link, dan Integrated Communicatin System serta melibatkan perusahaan lokal galangan kapal dan perbaikan meriam,” katanya.


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i'm a bit confuse here, so, does Len provide Tactical Data Link along with their CMS but still using Thales sensor and hardware?, or they only integrate their datalink with Thales CMS and sensors?


from what i can swallow, LEN act as main contractor, meanwhile use THALES hardware & software to upgrade the ship. While LEN provide data link(radio communications), THALES still provide CMS (tacticos at it best)

CMMIW
 

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