Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Mandala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575757086427848707

The huge figure is USD 401 million.

 

[Umigami]

The huge figure is USD 401 million.

Is it big for 2 frigates?

 

[Lordimperator]

The huge figure is USD 401 million.

Oh boiii, waiting time again, what it will be used for the armaments. Sylver, mk41?

 

[Parry Brima]

Is it big for 2 frigates?

$401 mil only for armaments for two ships?

Using some various random samples, just roughly:

- Royal Navy allegedly spent $550 mil - $600 mil to add 24 Sea Ceptor (naval CAMM) silos to each of their six Type-45 destroyers.

So basically $100 mil per ship for 24x AAW.

- US approved the sale of 20 Harpoon missiles + 4 cannisters to Egypt in a deal worth $145 mil.

So basically $70 mil per ship for (10 missiles + 2 cans each) ASW.

- Rheinmetall sold two Oerlikon Millennium guns for an unnamed European Navy for $12 mil. So $6 mil each.

- Torpedoes will cost about $2 mil each. The launcher probably < $1 mil each. Not sure how many we'd like to have.

- The Philippines spent $1.1 mil for Oto Melara 76mm guns for their two Jose-Rizal ships. So $550k each.

So total : $100 mil (24x AAW) + $70 mil (2x10 ASW) + $6 mil (Millennium gun) + $0.5 mil Oto Melara = $176.5 mil.

If the budget is $200.5 mil for each ship then there's still $24 mil left for the torpedoes, additional guns, and more VLS perhaps?

note : not sure we'd spend that much on ASW.

 

[Lordimperator]

and more VLS perhaps?

If they opted for Brahmos, how much it will costs? Brahmos is more expensive than tomahawk right?

 

[Mandala]

Off topic.

Colombia signed contract for 5 SIGMA 10514. Looks like its similar to our KRI REM except for the STRALES main gun and 16 VLS.

Damen to build five frigates for the Colombian Navy

According to information published by Infodefensa on September 27, 2022, the Colombian Ministry of Defense has announced that Damen will be the technologic

www.navyrecognition.com

 

[Parry Brima]

If they opted for Brahmos, how much it will costs? Brahmos is more expensive than tomahawk right?

Brahmos is $4.85 mil each, but this is for the extended range version that the Indian Navy bought recently for their newest P-15B destroyers.

Plus $25 mil for each ship missile launchers, command centre, and radar.

Btw, the point is that $400 mil budget is not really "huge" if it's for both ships. Unless it's $400 mil for each ship

Extended-range BrahMos cruise missile costs under $5 million

Navy buys most advanced version of BrahMos for Project 15B destroyers

www.business-standard.com

 

[Madokafc]

Regardless, those funding if approved can Made our Itver Huitveld showing some edge compared to their peer in the region.

 

[Parry Brima]

Regardless, those funding if approved can Made our Itver Huitveld showing some edge compared to their peer in the region.

Hopefully the approximate price above is way off. Especially the $100 mil for 24x AAW.

Formidable-class has 32x AAW (Aster), we should have more.

 

[chibiyabi]

Is it big for 2 frigates?

looks big, but its multi years procurements. it should be more fit with our financing posture. its sholudn't be a problem, Air Force, Navy much full of capital. multi years for big procurements better than buying 5 fake KCR every years

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1576662804391526400

 

[Lordimperator]

Hopefully the approximate price above is way off. Especially the $100 mil for 24x AAW.

Formidable-class has 32x AAW (Aster), we should have more.

For comparison, maybe we could see Poland AH140PL 2 bil for 3 fully armed frigates will be armed with 32 mk41, bofors 57mm, 4 RBS SSM

More details on the new Polish Mièçznick frigates

On March 4, with all the media attention focused on the fighting in Ukraine, Warsaw announced the winner of the competition

www.meta-defense.fr

 

[Parry Brima]

For comparison, maybe we could see Poland AH140PL 2 bil for 3 fully armed frigates will be armed with 32 mk41, bofors 57mm, 4 RBS SSM

$2 bil for 3 fully armed warships? So $666 mil each.

The estimated price for the ship alone is about $305 mil (Royal Navy) - $360 mil (Indonesian Navy).

So total cost for the armaments, systems, radar, etc is $306 mil - $361 mil for each ship.

 

[chibiyabi]

For comparison, maybe we could see Poland AH140PL 2 bil for 3 fully armed frigates will be armed with 32 mk41, bofors 57mm, 4 RBS SSM

More details on the new Polish Mièçznick frigates

On March 4, with all the media attention focused on the fighting in Ukraine, Warsaw announced the winner of the competition

www.meta-defense.fr

indo cannot compared to poland, indonesia always choose "paket hemat" not fully logistics package..

 

[Lordimperator]

$2 bil for 3 fully armed

Thread 'Poland shortlists Babcock, Thyssenkrupp for $2 billion frigate program' https://defencehub.live/threads/pol...senkrupp-for-2-billion-frigate-program.12128/
Based on the news yes

 

[Lordimperator]

Hmmm Navantia

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577260756785311744

Juan carlos? F110?

 

[Madokafc]

Hmmm Navantia

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577260756785311744

Juan carlos? F110?

TCG Anadolu maybe something like that as they are based on Spanish design, hear the Navy interested in UAV carrier program. As we are already moving toward ocean going warships like Itver Huitveld class and Fremm something like this should be considered too

 

[Lordimperator]

TCG Anadolu maybe something like that as they are based on Spanish design, hear the Navy interested in UAV carrier program. As we are already moving toward ocean going warships like Itver Huitveld class and Fremm something like this should be considered too

Thats what i think too, when we saw the TB3 UAV advertisement with indonesian flag on LHD.
if thats what they are eyeing for, man finally we ll get KRI Majapahit lol.

 

[FPXAllen]

Thats what i think too, when we saw the TB3 UAV advertisement with indonesian flag on LHD.
if thats what they are eyeing for, man finally we ll get KRI Majapahit lol.

Sunda Empire be like:
"It's time for us to build our own warship and name it KKS Pasundan!"

Unrelated: Woohoo! My 1000th post!

 

[Parry Brima]

Thats what i think too, when we saw the TB3 UAV advertisement with indonesian flag on LHD.
if thats what they are eyeing for, man finally we ll get KRI Majapahit lol.

Normally how many escort ships required to sail along an LHD?