Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Mandala]

"In 2024, Indonesia jointly selected Naval Group and local shipbuilder PT PAL to collaborate on construction of two lithium ion battery-powered Scorpène vessels in country, with the French prime responsible for technology transfer. Naval Group is also lobbying Indonesia for a Defense and Intervention frigate order.

The manufacturer proposed an offer last year for the ship that included an option for local production, ASTER 15 and 30 missiles, alongside self-protection systems and a three-year construction pitch, according to Naval News."

With Macron in town, Indonesia and France inch closer on potential deals for fighter jets, subs - Breaking Defense

In all cases, firm contracts would be required before any new orders are made official but French industry were quick to lend their support to the potential new lines of business.

breakingdefense.com

 

[Mandala]

That looks like Aselsan Cafrad on the FMP.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1928716225946989012

 

[Mandala]

Interesting photo of CEO Naval Group with Indonesian Navy Chief holding together a model of Indonesian Navy DSME 209/1400. Credit to TNI-AL.

 

[Umigami]

Interesting photo of CEO Naval Group with Indonesian Navy Chief holding together a model of Indonesian Navy DSME 209/1400. Credit to TNI-AL.

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So what is this mean?

 

[Mandala]

So what is this mean?

Maybe Nagapasa Class upgrade by Naval Group?

 

[Umigami]

Maybe Nagapasa Class upgrade by Naval Group?

I hope so

 

[Umigami]

CNN Indonesia TV on Instagram: "Meski akan mendapatkan 2 buah kapal selam kelas scorpene terbaru, TNI AL berencana membeli kapal selam lainnya. Kapal selam ini nantinya akan digunakan sembari menunggu kedatangan kapal selam scorpene. Namun demikian,

108 likes, 0 comments - cnnindonesiatv on June 3, 2025: "Meski akan mendapatkan 2 buah kapal selam kelas scorpene terbaru, TNI AL berencana membeli kapal selam lainnya. Kapal selam ini nantinya akan digunakan sembari menunggu kedatangan kapal selam scorpene. Namun demikian, belum diputuskan...

www.instagram.com

Interim Subs to wait for Scorpene
French, Chinese, German, and Italy are offering

 

[this is crunch]

CNN Indonesia TV on Instagram: "Meski akan mendapatkan 2 buah kapal selam kelas scorpene terbaru, TNI AL berencana membeli kapal selam lainnya. Kapal selam ini nantinya akan digunakan sembari menunggu kedatangan kapal selam scorpene. Namun demikian,

108 likes, 0 comments - cnnindonesiatv on June 3, 2025: "Meski akan mendapatkan 2 buah kapal selam kelas scorpene terbaru, TNI AL berencana membeli kapal selam lainnya. Kapal selam ini nantinya akan digunakan sembari menunggu kedatangan kapal selam scorpene. Namun demikian, belum diputuskan...

www.instagram.com

Interim Subs to wait for Scorpene
French, Chinese, German, and Italy are offering

Interim means quick to get with limited budget, so procurement for newly built sub might be out of option, Unless, the submarine building process is really fast, (like chinese did),

But nevertheless, second hand unit would still be interesting if the offered sub was Italian U212

 

[kanalkanan]

Interim means quick to get with limited budget, so procurement for newly built sub might be out of option, Unless, the submarine building process is really fast, (like chinese did),

But nevertheless, second hand unit would still be interesting if the offered sub was Italian U212

Turkey has a reis class project which currently has 2 submarines in the sea trial and has just been launched.
perhaps it could be an option if DOD want to buy fast submarines like ppa and fdi.

 

[this is crunch]

Turkey has a reis class project which currently has 2 submarines in the sea trial and has just been launched.
perhaps it could be an option if DOD want to buy fast submarines like ppa and fdi.

Nope, you can't expect the same pattern like we're getting PPA from Italy,, and Egypt getting FREMM from both Italy and France with "shortcut way" the same way with the other procurement.

The reason IDN Navy and Egyptian Navy getting brand new ship so quick is because the original owner has reached the minimum quantity and quality for its armada already, they have the abundance of surface fleet enough to fulfill the minimum number but still need more to fill the gap

IIt's different story with Turkiye building Reis class with their top priority in mind.

 

[flogger]

Everything is posible and for sale if you have the money and long term mutualism benefit for them

 

[Umigami]

Everything is posible and for sale if you have the money and long term mutualism benefit for them

Rubis

 

[Umigami]

Emeraude just decommissioned December last year btw

 

[kanalkanan]

Nope, you can't expect the same pattern like we're getting PPA from Italy,, and Egypt getting FREMM from both Italy and France with "shortcut way" the same way with the other procurement.

The reason IDN Navy and Egyptian Navy getting brand new ship so quick is because the original owner has reached the minimum quantity and quality for its armada already, they have the abundance of surface fleet enough to fulfill the minimum number but still need more to fill the gap

IIt's different story with Turkiye building Reis class with their top priority in mind.

so lease it for couple years, with an option to extend or purchase in the future if possible...everybody happy then

 

[Mandala]

Merah Putih Frigate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932904055204163999

 

[Mandala]

A model of TAIS FACM-70 (KCR-70M).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933087625126216172

 

[Mandala]

Merah Putih Frigate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933153314688176386

 

[Umigami]

Merah Putih Frigate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933153314688176386

Are those Cafrad radar?

 

[Soman45]

This is so sick!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934041482195066938

 

[Stuka Dive]

This is so sick!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934041482195066938

Wondering if the 6 FREMM purchase to be continued .....( " Khayalan si miskin" mode..)