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Those bases are fine but using them for long term operations is Not sustainable in the long term though.
Why not,the US ''owns'' them and with Trump in office nothing is going to change that?
 

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Iran needs to start targeting airbases. It should dedicate all drones and missiles to destroying parked F35s - to achieve this it not only needs to go through a strong network of air defences surrounding air bases, but also needs live intel on where F35s are located.

If they don't reduce their F35 fleet it'll be a total victory for Israel in this round of fighting.
You know the US is in on it from the beginning and with everything Israel needs,right?
It doesnt matter if Israel loses 50 F-35's.
Iran needs to take out at least a couple of hundred Israelis to have any effect,watch what happens when 500 lives are lost at once in a strike in Israel.
 

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You know the US is in on it from the beginning and with everything Israel needs,right?
It doesnt matter if Israel loses 50 F-35's.
Iran needs to take out at least a couple of hundred Israelis to have any effect,watch what happens when 500 lives are lost at once in a strike in Israel.
Yes the US may give them more, but that'll take time. Let's not forget that the F35s they used were modified for extra range.

Let's say they lost 2/3 of their F35s, the psychological impact would be huge, and Iran could say it's won this round.

Either way, Iran will replenish its missiles and Israel will restock any lost assets. This war cannot be won this way. Only boots on the ground can have a lasting impact.
 

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Let's not forget that the F35s they used were modified for extra range.
Thats bs,they refueled over Iraq,Qatar,KSA and probably Bahrain.
They just want people to believe they had nothing to do with it,thats why the so called droptanks.

Let's say they lost 2/3 of their F35s, the psychological impact would be huge, and Iran could say it's won this round.
Not as much as Israeli lives lost,for the mullahs Iran won every round.

Either way, Iran will replenish its missiles and Israel will restock any lost assets. This war cannot be won this way. Only boots on the ground can have a lasting impact.
Yes and that will not happen any time soon.
Not even Trump is that stupid.
 

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Thats bs,they refueled over Iraq,Qatar,KSA and probably Bahrain.
They just want people to believe they had nothing to do with it,thats why the so called droptanks.

Israel and US modified F-35s to enable Iran attack without refuelling, sources say

 

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@mTT Sources say alot,what sources?
It would take alot of time and work to do that.
Not buying it
 

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Looks like Iranian ad is non existent anymore now that they are using jdams at least now we know how an Isreali air attack would look like
I’m guessing airforce is going to order more siper battery’s after this
 

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Israel was a close ally of Türkiye,now it is working against my country in every way possible.
No wonder the country (Israel) and society suffer from latent schizophrenia. They feel betrayal, attacks, and danger everywhere and fear for their lives. If they had behaved better toward their neighbors in the Middle East instead of adopting a typical European colonial mentality/mindset (90% of the Israeli population comes from Europe), the situation would be different.
Just because they were killed and expelled from Poland, Russia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic does not mean that one must do the same to others and expel people because someone has to pay for their anger and powerlessness, and the Europeans are currently not available.
Half of Europe is, of course, washing its hands of the matter, and of course everyone supports Israel because it admits no guilt and does not want to be confronted with the problem it has caused in middle east.
 
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Looks like Iranian ad is non existent anymore now that they are using jdams at least now we know how an Isreali air attack would look like
I’m guessing airforce is going to order more siper battery’s after this
All we have seen so far is an israeli air campaign where the opposing force does not have an actual air force whatsoever and can‘t strike enemy early radar warning installations used to track ballistic missiles because they are US-owned and operated in 3rd party countries.
 

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No wonder the country (Israel) and society suffer from latent schizophrenia. They feel betrayal, attacks, and danger everywhere and fear for their lives. If they had behaved better toward their neighbors in the Middle East instead of adopting a typical European colonial mentality/mindset (90% of the Israeli population comes from Europe), the situation would be different.
Just because they were killed and expelled from Poland, Russia, Germany, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic does not mean that one must do the same to others and expel people because someone has to pay for their anger and powerlessness, and the Europeans are currently not available.
Half of Europe is, of course, washing its hands of the matter, and of course everyone supports Israel because it admits no guilt and does not want to be confronted with the problem it has caused in middle east.
They didn‘t adopt european colonialism, they were birthed by european colonialism from the onset. Zionism predates the expulsion of jews from europe prior to and during WW2. They will never seek to establish functioning relationships with other countries in the region because their very existence is unnatural to the region. They will take, take and take as long as they can and as wide as they can spread. Because the power balance has long been in their favour with the US behind them. There is no logical reason for them to cease their ambitions because their gains overshadow the losses they suffer.
 

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You have been expelled from 109 countries, I guess for no reason?
In any case, what we have seen since 7th of October, gives very good reason even to people of Papua to dislike you.
Let's not go back through all what your officials have said and done so far.
Who is you??
 

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and I wonder who was the cause of that?!

Oh wait it is erdogan
It's not that simple! The Middle East does not have to pay for the Holocaust, nor does it have to take responsibility for Israel's latent security needs or accept blame for the Holocaust in order to show understanding. If you are so keen on it, why not allow a Jewish state to be established in USA for example Dakota or some other backwater in USA? The Europeans did not tolerate them living among them. The people of the Middle East are paying the price.
 

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and I wonder who was the cause of that?!

Oh wait it is erdogan
I mean erdogan is definitely not a friend of israel but relations started to sour after the blue marmaray incident and continuous settler build up. Israel in the main time experienced a major shift to the right and that the oslo accord was dead be for it even started as bibi said 20 years ago a palestinian state will not happen under my watch and also the rising turkish influence in the region from libya to syria to somalia and the warming relations between saudi arabia and turkey.
They are afraid not of the current turkey but of the future one as we are slowly closing the technological gap between us.
We have a large military with good experience and tactical knowledge but lack ad system and modern aircraft but we have the largest industrial base in the region and ones we combine the quantity with quality the Army will be without doubt the dominant millitary power in the region.
Also Israel has no soft power and the american public is slowly getting tired of them thanks to social media only their intelligence service will continue to be the best for at least 15-20 years.
 

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Israel was never an ally and Erdogan did not invent the genocidal Zionist Ideology that poses the biggest threat to humanity in the region.
Israel used to be a pretty strategic ally of Turkey in a region riddled with Baas dictatorships and a revolutionary Iran. Baathic dictatorships have now all fallen and Iran's Shia Axis is broken in the last decade. Turkey and Israel were allies of circumstance and now they are rivals of circumstance.

Demeaning the two's relationship over the decades to just Erdoğan, to just Netanyahu or just Israeli killing of babies is a foolhardy way to look at things.
 

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and I wonder who was the cause of that?!

Oh wait it is erdogan
Well, let's go back to some of your previous posts. Like for example, your reference to the world order after WW2 .
Firstly Turkey didn't partake in WW2
Secondly, Israel didn't exist till 1947, so no need to refer to such events, vis a Vie what you tried to say
Let me not complicate things here, so will try to make my point simple.
Your starting point here was , it is Islamists who make problems between us , otherwise we ( Jews) are really nice and we were nice with you till Islamisam had appeared? No?
We can accuse islamists of many things, but I don't need to accuse you of Talmudic perversions, why you may ask. It is because, those perversions are in open, no?
Letr not quite here about F goyim children.
Also, the leadership of Israel referencing all the time such depravations, don't they???
Population of Israel ( Jews) also, according to the polls, is in huge percentage in favour of the things that can be compared to Talmudic teachings , isn't it so?
Let's talk this to ordinary people understanding , shall we?
No one in their right mind, wants pedophiles ( Talmudic practically), ritualistic childe killers ( dancing with burned effigie of children) ( 200k likes on telegram for killed girl) , usurers ( this is contrary not just to Islam but Christianity,,) or Pimps ( PornHub etc) as neighbours.
So , you can say, you have rights to exist? Maybe technically, but what do you think, when The European explorers came across the cannibalism were they right to stop it or should they had respect " good neighbourhood" relationship?
To put it bluntly, no normal person should even comment with such grotesque entities.
Let me not here even talk about of so called " exchange" of the Ideas or culture.
Mr Wagner explained, your distasteful idiocities in regards of culture etc. Mendelssohn???
Or reading Singer or other Jewish pathetic sentimentalism?
Am I saying here something that is not correct?
Oh yes , we can open the subject of your pathetic " esoteric" wisdom? In that regards I will quote rabbi Smuly sks
and I wonder who was the cause of that?!

Oh wait it is erdogan
 

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Can someone explain to why such people need to exist? What would be a purpose of that?
Oh , we are good guys, it is Islamists who are troublakers?
Oh we are good neighbors?
Now talking about the friendship between Jews and none Semetic Middle Eastern Muslims?
Against the Arabs?
On different platform and vocation , it would be " Arabs and us would do so much good if not for the Persians and Turks"????
No?
 

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