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They have more than enough uniforms for their parades and shows during the ceasefires.

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But once the war starts (each time by Hamas), they drop uniforms and change to adidas. The only explanation is that they know that Israel does not target civilians. By wearing civilian clothes Hamas greatly increases their chance to survive. But in same time they also increase the chance of civilians being hit.
There is no babies and children in the picture you posted but still, babies and children are killed every day by Israeli regime army
 

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Kids from 6 to 8 years sniped from head and hart, they are all potential terrorists for Hamas so they are legit targets :LOL:, people are starving to death.
 

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They have more than enough uniforms for their parades and shows during the ceasefires.

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But once the war starts (each time by Hamas), they drop uniforms and change to adidas. The only explanation is that they know that Israel does not target civilians. By wearing civilian clothes Hamas greatly increases their chance to survive. But in same time they also increase the chance of civilians being hit.

Even if we take it as you say it is for the sake of argument, how are you going to explain the deliberate starvation by blocking sufficient amount of aid that is causing children to die in significant numbers right now as we speak? I am genuinely curious what you have to say about that.
 

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Israel’s 12-Day War Revealed Alarming Gap in America’s Missile Stockpile

During conflict, Thaad operators burned through nearly a quarter of interceptors ever purchased by Pentagon

Operating alongside Israeli systems, Thaad operators burned through munitions at a furious clip, firing more than 150 missiles to shoot down the waves of Iranian ballistic missiles, according to U.S. officials. That is nearly a quarter of the interceptors ever purchased by the Pentagon.

The demand was so staggering that at one point, the Pentagon considered a plan to divert interceptors purchased by Saudi Arabia to the systems in Israel, one official said. The discussions were sensitive, because the kingdom’s cities and oil installations were also considered at risk during the conflict.

Very informative article (THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.).


This part is also interesting.

During the 12-day war, the ships shot about 80 SM-3s at Iranian threats, according to a U.S. official.
There also are concerns in the Pentagon that the SM-3s, first used in combat last year, also to counter an Iranian attack, didn’t destroy as many targets as expected, according to two defense officials.
A Navy officer involved in the process said it is premature to judge SM-3 engagements.
“Testing and operational data from combat use consistently demonstrates that SM-3 are highly effective interceptors that have demonstrated the ability to defeat complex threats in the most stressing environments,” an RTX spokesman said.
 
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They have more than enough uniforms for their parades and shows during the ceasefires.

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But once the war starts (each time by Hamas), they drop uniforms and change to adidas. The only explanation is that they know that Israel does not target civilians. By wearing civilian clothes Hamas greatly increases their chance to survive. But in same time they also increase the chance of civilians being hit.
No shit they have uniforms for parades and photo ops lmfao. It's almost like the entire point of such parades is to showcase the most well-equipped troops and equipment. That pictures shows like what, 70 people in uniforms? Your comment about them not wearing black suits is completely irrelevant and doesn't even provide groundworks for any type of argument, because israel already directly targets civilians. It's a non-issue for the IOF.
 

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No shit they have uniforms for parades and photo ops lmfao. It's almost like the entire point of such parades is to showcase the most well-equipped troops and equipment. That pictures shows like what, 70 people in uniforms? Your comment about them not wearing black suits is completely irrelevant and doesn't even provide groundworks for any type of argument, because israel already directly targets civilians. It's a non-issue for the IOF.
They have uniforms for 10K+ Hamas policemen. They have plenty of uniforms for their parades. They have thousands of rockets, they built hundreds kms of tunnels. Obviously uniforms are not any problem to them. Fighting in civilian clothing is their deliberate strategy. And it shows 2 things:

1) Israel does not target civilians and they know it.
2) They deliberately endanger their civilians in order to increase their own survival chances.
 

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They have uniforms for 10K+ Hamas policemen. They have plenty of uniforms for their parades. They have thousands of rockets, they built hundreds kms of tunnels. Obviously uniforms are not any problem to them. Fighting in civilian clothing is their deliberate strategy. And it shows 2 things:

1) Israel does not target civilians and they know it.
2) They deliberately endanger their civilians in order to increase their own survival chances.



So why do IDF soldiers shoot testikels off kids?

 

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This "evidence" is obviously false. You cant shoot with such precision. I can give u a video of Hamas shooting knees and breaking legs of fellow Palestinians.

Yeah 1 video but what about the other hunderd cases?




The same soldier another shocking witness off genocides...

 

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This "evidence" is obviously false. You cant shoot with such precision. I can give u a video of Hamas shooting knees and breaking legs of fellow Palestinians.
You are saying to hit a ~5cm cross section is impossible?
 

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Incredible.

Not only do you target civilians you celebrate the rape of them and your politicians gloat about exterminating them all.
Israel totally lost its credibility since they killed 60000 civilians.

You all know about me, even I can't support such cruel acts.

It's not a political issue, it is inhuman.
 

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Israel totally lost its credibility since they killed 60000 civilians.

You all know about me, even I can't support such cruel acts.

It's not a political issue, it is inhuman.

Probably one of the things that really put me off the Isreali side of the argument was how they are always trying to lambast everyone who is against what Isreal is doing as being an "anti-Semite" or "anti-Jewish". And I've always been the type of guy who just wants to see the reality, hence why despite being in essence both a Turkish nationalist and an Islamist, 90% of my criticism on this forum is directed towards either Turkish politics or Islamist entities/organisations.

I've always seen myself as probably one of the most pro-jewish people on this forum because i recognise the origins of zionism, i understand its origins in british isrealism, i understand how it comes out of Scottish rite freemasonry and how the Anti-defamation league previously called the B'nai B'rith can also if you look hard enough trace its origins to the same place. The ADL while presenting itself as a defence of the jewish people has in the past even defended Satanists in the USA.

I understand that zionism ultimately is anti-jewish, it simply uses some of the jewish people no different to hoe FETO used some Turkish Muslims. Its a scam and truth be told dangerous to religious jews. It is anti-jewish to its core and many have been hood winked by it.

In that sense when i speak against zionism i am probably the biggest defender of the Jewish people on this forum. Because for me zionism is not really about the jews at all, its a anglo-american instrument used to further their geopolitical ambition.
 

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Israel totally lost its credibility since they killed 60000 civilians.

You all know about me, even I can't support such cruel acts.

It's not a political issue, it is inhuman.
Even Hamas does not say that all 60K are civilians. Thats total killed without distinguishing civilians and combatant. BTW, the UN forces in Korea killed around 1 mln civilians.

You are saying to hit a ~5cm cross section is impossible?
For regular soldier from 200 m at moving target? - Absolutely impossible. Snipers are very rare and highly professional people. Every single shoot is calculated. They will never risk to disclose their position, risk their mission, risk themselves and soldiers they are covering for such nonsense.

The stories about IDF snipers come from the sources like this:

 

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Even Hamas does not say that all 60K are civilians. Thats total killed without distinguishing civilians and combatant. BTW, the UN forces in Korea killed around 1 mln civilians.


For regular soldier from 200 m at moving target? - Absolutely impossible. Snipers are very rare and highly professional people. Every single shoot is calculated. They will never risk to disclose their position, risk their mission, risk themselves and soldiers they are covering for such nonsense.

The stories about IDF snipers come from the sources like this:

Which would still indicate the vast majority being civilian casualties. Not to mention the fact that the 60K number is a vast undercount.

Civilians being killed in the Korean War does not permit Israel to commit genocide.

It's almost like targets can stop moving and iof soldiers can freely kill as many civilians as they want without any risk at all.
 

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1) Israel does not target civilians and they know it.
2) They deliberately endanger their civilians in order to increase their own survival chances.
Yeah, and the Germans also totally did not target any civilians during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, only "terrorists", right?. After all, the German commander claimed that he offered safe passage for Women and Children, but I guess by your logic the jewish fighters just deliberately endangered their civilians in order to increase their own survival chances.
 

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Even Hamas does not say that all 60K are civilians. Thats total killed without distinguishing civilians and combatant. BTW, the UN forces in Korea killed around 1 mln civilians.


For regular soldier from 200 m at moving target? - Absolutely impossible. Snipers are very rare and highly professional people. Every single shoot is calculated. They will never risk to disclose their position, risk their mission, risk themselves and soldiers they are covering for such nonsense.

The stories about IDF snipers come from the sources like this:

"What aboutism" would never justify Israel. I have never been anti-semitic, more over I always supported Israel against Arabs but it is too much. Anyway Israel seems not need any justfy beside US support.
 

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