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Looking forward to seeing how this plays our strategically, given that I suspect much of this was "discussed" in advance.

Israel's air defense will primarily include...

Israeli 🇮🇱 Iron Dome
This will be used as the primary defense system against Iranian drones, using Tamir interceptors.

Israeli 🇮🇱 F-15s and F-16s
Launched from bases across Israel, they'll fly top cover and aid in the interception of Iranian drones using AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 AMRAAM Missiles.

American 🇺🇸 F-35s and F-18's
Launched from regional bases (F-35s) and American Carriers (F-18s), these fighters will fly top cover over Israel and help intercept drones using AIM-9x sidewinders and cruise missiles using AIM-120 AMRAAMs.

British 🇬🇧 Eurofighter Typhoons
Launched from regional bases, these fighters will fly top cover over Israel and help intercept drones using ASRAAM and Meteor missiles and cruise missiles using AIM-120 AMRAAMS.

Israeli 🇮🇱 David's Sling
This system will be used to intercept cruise missiles and ballistic missiles launched at Israel, especially those missiles that pose a threat to major cities.

Israeli 🇮🇱 PAC-2 Patriots
These systems will be used exclusively to intercept Irainian cruise missiles and balistic missiles.

American 🇺🇸 Arleigh Burke Destroyers
working off the coast of Israel, these air defense specialists will use RIM-66 missiles to counter drone threats, RIM-156 missiles to counters cruise missiles and RIM-161 missiles to counter ballistic missiles. These ships will likely only get involved if other elements of Israel's air defense get overwhelmed.
 

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Cant Iraq protect its airspace and shoot them down?
They have some aircrafts and SAMs
As always muslims have became clows asslickers while small N Korea have alot more balls than some muslims.
Do you really think it's in Iraq's best interest to start shooting down American and British fighters that are not attacking Iraq?

That sounds like an easy excuse for them to carpet bomb Baghdad again. I have no idea why Iraq would want to do that right now.
 

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BREAKING: RUSSIA 🇷🇺 TO SUPPORT 🇮🇷 IRAN Vladimir Putin: “If the United States makes the slightest attack on Iran's soil in support of Israel, we will also enter the battle in support of Iran.”
 

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Do you really think it's in Iraq's best interest to start shooting down American and British fighters that are not attacking Iraq?

That sounds like an easy excuse for them to carpet bomb Baghdad again. I have no idea why Iraq would want to do that right now.
Carpet bombing for that ?
Iraq just protecting its air space not bombing washingron DC 🤦‍♂️
Than if USA carpet bomb than strait of Hormuz will be clossed , World economy will go down fast ,
Iraq can easy bring China , Russia military air bases with NUKES inside Iraq .
Thats many ways to stop USA zionsim but as i said mutiole times , Muslims dont have balls while others are traitor corrupted .
 

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BREAKING: RUSSIA 🇷🇺 TO SUPPORT 🇮🇷 IRAN Vladimir Putin: “If the United States makes the slightest attack on Iran's soil in support of Israel, we will also enter the battle in support of Iran.”
Russia 🇷🇺 is posturing for the most part. The Americans have been DYING for the Russians to misstep and invite conventional conflict. The Russian Air Force and Navy are going to get their shit pushed in if they try to get involved in any meaningful way. Putin knows that. He's up to his elbows in Ukraine. He wants no part of the Americans (and likely the British) helping the Israelis hunt his air force and Navy in the Middle East.
 

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Carpet bombing for that ?
Iraq just protecting its air space not bombing washingron DC 🤦‍♂️
Than if USA carpet bomb than strait of Hormuz will be clossed , World economy will go down fast ,
Iraq can easy bring China , Russia military air bases with NUKES inside Iraq .
Thats many ways to stop USA zionsim but as i said mutiole times , Muslims dont have balls while others are traitor corrupted .
Iraq is not going to "protect" its air space against the United States, unless the U.S. starts targeting Iraq proper. If you're the leadership in Iraq, why would you kick that hornets nest? It makes no sense.
 

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A lot of anti-Turkish comments van US veterans and marines stating that "Turkey is our enemey from now on".

Those stupid Yanks should ask theirselfs; is a friend who pulls you everytime in his own fight a real friend?

The Americans have one true ally - the UK. Turkey has repeatedly told the US this when they disagreed on Iraq before and now this. It's just stupid.
 

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Because if Turkish territory or airspace is used in these attacks Iran has the full right to respond. While they lack capable air fleet, their ballistic missile arsenal is enough to level to the ground targets of importance in Turkiye, no matter the range without any opposition, because Turkiye simply doesn't posses anti-ballistic missile defence capable air defence system. It is unfortunate to say, but Turkiye is not ready for a conventional war with Iran, not even for a limited, short standoff. This doesn't mean we can't do damage, this means that the damage that we would possibly receive will be enough to make us sorry. If we want to play big, we must be ready to play big.

We can't enter confrontation with Iran in such an open way and also we don't need to. This is a problem between Iran and Israel including their supporters and not our problem. What will be the best thing to do is fill the power vacuum and exploit the instability that such a confrontation will cause in the best way possible. If we want to think from Turkiye's perspective, a large scale war is not a good thing to happen on Turkiye's borders, because in a possible refugee wave Turkiye will be the country that will take the most of the weight. These refugees are not going to Afghanistan for sure and we simply can't shoot all of them.

In my opinion what we should do is reinforce our position in the metropole areas in the north of Iraq, win and organize the Iraqi Turkmen and annihilate the traitors within them, causing a clear distinction between the supporters of Turkiye and Iranian agents. We should reinforce our position in Azerbaijan and press Armenia to agree without conditions to our proposals and enforce peace.

The situation with the Turks in Iran is complicated. For sure we can exploit the lack of stability in our favor, but people must not be deceived! While millions of Turks live in Iran, most of them are not supporting separatism as the Turkish nationalist medias are propagating. They don't have any difference from the ordinary Iranian citizen in their political views. Before doing such a thing an area exploration and social analysis should be done in order to determine in which areas this initiative will be effective and what will be the prospects for inciting an insurgency. We should know what will be the aim of this. Deflecting the resources of the Mullah regime, separatism or something else.

I think that what we need in Iran is a friendly regime and this change must come either by democratic elections or popular unrest that would cause a "revolution" (which we can support) that will be completed with as little spilled blood as possible. Chaos can cause strategic capabilities that Iran posses to fall into the wrong hands and we don't want this. The biggest danger by these capabilities is the Iranian WMD program. Illegal WMD proliferation is something that we don't want and must be prevented at all costs.

In all of the above points I have the opinion that we shouldn't start something of which we won't bring the affairs to their end. We are fighting various terrorist organizations for decades, deal with various threats and instability in our neighbours for which we are among the main responsible actors. Billions and even trillions of dollars are gone in all of this. If we start something that we can't end, this means many more resources in terms of manpower and money will be wasted for an unknown ending. When it comes to Iran we may even face an existential threat in worst case scenario.

A good reference for something we started to a big extend and can't get to the end with is the Syrian intervention. Was it a mistake to intervene in Syria? No! The mistake was the poor planning and execution of this "operation". In result of this adventure, we are stuck with terrorists on our border, smugglers as our allies, a narco-regime that is hating us to their guts that is blowing up people in our country, the Turkmen project is basically dead, NATO has one more reason to hate us and ~4 million Syrians are in Turkiye (Arab, Kurd, Turkmen, Assyrian etc) that are bringing "cultural richness" to an already polarized and separated society. And no, the US is not the guilty one, but the decision makers in Turkiye who supported the poor plan, trusting the "supreme" US strategic mind.

While we are painting different kinds of dark scenarios I personally think that we are not going to see a conventional war between Iran and Israel. All the work of Iran in the past decades is concentrated at keeping away the focus of the US from Iran. US is currently intervening in all of the region except in Iran. They are busy in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Ukraine, Palestine, we even start to talk about Iranian presence in African countries bordering the Red Sea. We are talking about the Axis of Resistance.

While jokingly remembering the Turkish series "The Valley of the Wolves" from time to time I remember a very good analysis in my opinion of the Aslan Akbey character (the chief of a secret intelligence organization named "KGT") while reviewing the situation in Fallujah, Iraq. The analysis is based on events happening between 2001-2003 and he basically states that Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia are supporting unconventional warfare actors (insurgents) in Iraq and around the world so they can keep the US busy, knowing that the US needs a certain level of available resources in order to continue "bringing democracy" to their countries, knowing that their turn will come too and this is the reason they are trying to pull away the focus of the US to other points at the map. Apart from Aslan Akbey's analysis I think this is especially true when it comes to Iran.

For Iran, entering an all out war with any major power means pulling resources from their regional/global initiative and bringing the focus of Iran's enemies at Iranian mainland. The consequences of such a war will be something that I am not sure if Iran wants to risk both militarily and politically. The rapid changes of balance in the region can result in unpredictable developments that may impact the whole region and mainly Iran and Turkiye as the two major regional powers extremely negatively.

Iranian rhetoric is there for who wants to believe in it. Especially when it comes to the Palestine issue, Iran with its rhetoric is gaining support from Shia, Sunni, anti-Western circles and regimes all around the world. Popular and political support are doors trough which the IRGC infiltrates its agents in the host country or community and starts using the local resources, focusing them towards their own agenda, using them at their disposal. Political rhetoric is important part of the process of "alignment" of a possible partner.

Aslan Akbey was a very wise man...

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Great post, but one of the biggest mistakes the AKP made was helping Iran avoid sanctions
 
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Do you really think Hezbollah has the type of forces that would fare well in an offensive, against a prepared enemy, with a first world military?

Hezbollah is at its best when it's able to fight using gorilla tactics, on its own territory, using its own prepared defenses. I think they'd get absolutely butchered if they tried to embark on convential offensive into Israel 🇮🇱. JMO.
 

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Do you really think Hezbollah has the type of forces that would fare well in an offensive, against a prepared enemy, with a first world military?

Hezbollah is at its best when it's able to fight using gorilla tactics, on its own territory, using its own prepared defenses. I think they'd get absolutely butchered if they tried to embark on convential offensive into Israel 🇮🇱. JMO.

Do you remember how Hamas light infantry fucked up Israeli first class army gaza division headquarter in one day? Nothing can be ruled out, although the possibility of success for Hezbullah is very low.
 

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BREAKING: RUSSIA 🇷🇺 TO SUPPORT 🇮🇷 IRAN Vladimir Putin: “If the United States makes the slightest attack on Iran's soil in support of Israel, we will also enter the battle in support of Iran.”
Can any Russian confirm this?
 

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Do you remember how Hamas light infantry fucked up Israeli first class army gaza division headquarter in one day? Nothing can be ruled out, although the possibility of success for Hezbullah is very low.
Very, very different when you are caught by surprise vs mobilized for war. Israel's 🇮🇱 military posture is much, much different than it was on October 7th.

I suspect that a conventional offensive from Hezbollah would play out similar to Wagner's attack on Bahkmut in Ukraine. There would certainly be a lot of dead Israeli defenders, but at the conclusion of the battle, Hezbollah's offensive capabilities would essentially be neutered by substantial attrition to its personnel.
 

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Iran's mission to the UN:
1. Iran exercises its right to self-defense in accordance with international law.
2. The US should stay away from what is happening as this matter concerns Israel and Iran.
3. Countries in the region were warned by Iran through diplomatic channels before the Iranian attack began.
 

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