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Can you imagine this nutter has access to nuclear weapons. Seems to me the Isrealis got too caught up in their own hubris. Despite much of the western world backing them and most of the western media operating as no more then pro Isreali propaganda outlets, the Isrealis are being exposed to the world as being something exceptionally crooked and quite perverse. And this comes from a guy who doesn't really have any feelings towards either side.

After intentionally bombing a hospital and celebrating it only a moron could continue to justify their extreme violence because of alleged prior atrocities, only a moron could continue to do such things.

Considering this sort of indiscriminate murder has been an isreali/idf hallmark, if we applied the same logic the isrealis apply to the Palestinians they would be in a lot of trouble.

Seems to me the Isrealis f'ed up.

But lets see if the Ummah means anything, because at the end of the day outrage and harsh words mean nothing on the ground.
 

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People critise the Turks for ruling the Middle East with an Iron Hand for 400 years.

Now you realise why they had to do it.

This whole Palestine vs Israeli conflict cant be blamed on the Turks.

Turks ruled the Holy City of Jerusalem for 400 years the Arabs and Jews would not even think of butchering each other.

Neither would Muslims, Christians and Jews would try to claim the holy city for themselves.

British, French and the Americans are trying to find a scapegoat.

What better way to blame the Turks
 

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Hamas is smuggling parts of Iranian Fajr-5 rockets from Egypt and then assembles them in Gaza (pics are from Aljazeera report).

Note the size of warhead, they need a crane to lift it. Not surprising, that many of these rockets break apart in the air and fall in Gaza. Many reach Tel Aviv too however.

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Hamas is smuggling parts of Iranian Fajr-5 rockets from Egypt and then assembles them in Gaza (pics are from Aljazeera report).

Note the size of warhead, they need a crane to lift it. Not surprising, that many of these rockets break apart in the air and fall in Gaza. Many reach Tel Aviv too however.

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If you think this warhead can level a hospital I have a bridge to sell. Aprox. half of that warhead is not even explosive. Wiki says its warhead weighs 175kg but only 90 kg of it is explosive.


The total weight of Mk84 is ~2000lbs only half of it is explosive. Most of the time Mk84 is not enough to level a multi-story durable building you have to attack with a calculated angle to cut the beams of the building.

 

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All these discussions about „who did it?“ and „who‘s lying?“ is futile. Because both sides are liars in the propaganda war. The amount of destruction and carnage is as expected after killing 1.300+ Israelis.

Hamas terror attack brought this hellfire knowingly upon their people they had to protect: the population of Gaza.

Everyone knew how devastating Israel‘s revenge, rage & retribution would be after such an heinous and militarily useless terror attack by Hamas.
 

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All these discussions about „who did it?“ and „who‘s lying?“ is futile. Because both sides are liars in the propaganda war. The amount of destruction and carnage is as expected after killing 1.300+ Israelis.

Hamas terror attack brought this hellfire knowingly upon their people they had to protect: the population of Gaza.

Everyone knew how devastating Israel‘s revenge, rage & retribution would be after such an heinous and militarily useless terror attack by Hamas.
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Why are you acting as if the Israelis have been living in absolute peace when they have been raping and pillaging for the last 60 years?

How many Palestinians died during those times? More than 10k! And now Israel is crying when they retaliate and killed around 1k? What a fqing joke

They should have expected it when they somehow organise a drunken, naked, party just near the Gaza border and labelled it "peace" while dancing like fools.... sure the palestinians will come over and say "go ahead right"?

I dont like Hamas actions nor do I support it but seeing many ppl act as if Hamas was the core of the problem and not Israel's actions for the last 20 years have been extremely infuriating
 

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This disscusion of who did it and who didn't, is very much important.

Israel is an state actor and Hamas is a non state actor.
Israel by definition enjoy all the international facilities while Hamas, designated by many as terrorists organizations, doesn't have any of these.

And these international facilities require a different level of responsibility (compared to non state actors) and certain basic standards to be met by every Nation State when conducting themselves.

If IDF deliberately struck the Hostpital then this is pure war crime and one of the worst state terrorism.
 

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Russia seems to have already declared its side in the Iran-Israel war. The Russians will definitely want to avenge Ukraine. And it looks like missiles we've never seen before will start flowing into Iran.

Russia says it need no longer obey UN restriction on missile technology for Iran​


 

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This disscusion of who did it and who didn't, is very much important.

Israel is an state actor and Hamas is a non state actor.
Israel by definition enjoy all the international facilities while Hamas, designated by many as terrorists organizations, doesn't have any of these.

And these international facilities require a different level of responsibility (compared to non state actors) and certain basic standards to be met by every Nation State when conducting themselves.

If IDF deliberately struck the Hostpital then this is pure war crime and one of the worst state terrorism.

Actually no one should care much to convince anyone other than collecting the evidence, if this tiny people of only 7 million thinks that we aren't capable of an even larger brutality then I must remind them of what happened to their ancestors in Medina.

We will avenge this, there's no question about it, even if take some time.
 

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wtf?

Why are you the one to defend the zionists?
Let him be... Atleast we could see the true color of everyone here ...

Russia seems to have already declared its side in the Iran-Israel war. The Russians will definitely want to avenge Ukraine. And it looks like missiles we've never seen before will start flowing into Iran.
Well , that escalates quickly isn't ??
But , from the technical point of view ... The bears are simply outsourcing their missille component production process .
Since the US and co could blatantly disregard the international treaties and laws
So do other .
After all between crops vs missile component ..were easy win in my books .
 
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Russia says it need no longer obey UN restriction on missile technology for Iran​


Why should they to begin with ? They're the 2 most sanctioned country on the planet, cooperation and not blindly following Western designed and imposed sanctions with the sole aim to deprive them of key technology is the natural way forward.

It has been laid bare that these UN "rule based" international order is nothing but a facade used by the West when it suits them and totally abandoned whenever it no longer suits their interest.
 

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All these discussions about „who did it?“ and „who‘s lying?“ is futile. Because both sides are liars in the propaganda war. The amount of destruction and carnage is as expected after killing 1.300+ Israelis.

Hamas terror attack brought this hellfire knowingly upon their people they had to protect: the population of Gaza.

Everyone knew how devastating Israel‘s revenge, rage & retribution would be after such an heinous and militarily useless terror attack by Hamas.
This is what the media is telling to justify this.

But look at this way, if hamas did the starting act then thousands of palestinians kids that are not hamas should die also?

If pkk does an terror launch should we flatten diyarbakir?
 

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