Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[satria]

Netanyahu devide zionis hearts ... make assasin sooner

 

[mehmed beg]

Israel is not "massacering" Palestinian civilians. If you want to have an honest conversation about the conflict, you have stop perpetuating that nonsense. Israel allowed hundreds of thousands of Gazans to flee to a safer part of Palestine, many on foot, using a route established by Israel. If their goal was the extermination of the Palestinian population they would have simply bombed those routes on masse as those people transited to the south, and killed them in enormous numbers, while they were easy targets.

Israel has no interest in exterminating the people of Gaza. They know those people will return to their homes and rebuild, after the war. That said, they have no problem if some die as a consequence of being inside / near buildings being used for military purposes. There is a future in which the two sides will work together to achieve some form of peace. That simply isn't the situation right now.

We can say the same things about Ukraine, can't we?
But let's face it , you and your ilk are just the kind of modern trash, which is only interested in the hate and resentment. No any ideas in life apart from that.
This is funny world, people here are trying to debate with you, I would too if there is anything to debate about. There is nothing no subject here to debate about. What are you? Who are you?
What are you stand for ? What are your ideas? Nothing but but empty shell. Narcissistic, nihilistic charlatan.
I know all of this for a long time about your kind, that's the reason, I never call your kind Nazis or Fascists , never. It is because Nazis and Fascist had ideals , whatever they had been etc but you? Nothing really, no personal morals, no faith in anything, no social etiquette.

 

[Ravager]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749715577667457365

Israeli soldiers were planting explosives to blow up 10 civilian homes in the Maghazi Refugee Camp in Gaza "to purify the area". An RPG missile fired at them triggered all the explosives they planted & killed 21 IDF soldiers.

What a poetic justice...

 

[B_A]

We can say the same things about Ukraine, can't we?
But let's face it , you and your ilk are just the kind of modern trash, which is only interested in the hate and resentment. No any ideas in life apart from that.
This is funny world, people here are trying to debate with you, I would too if there is anything to debate about. There is nothing no subject here to debate about. What are you? Who are you?
What are you stand for ? What are your ideas? Nothing but but empty shell. Narcissistic, nihilistic charlatan.
I know all of this for a long time about your kind, that's the reason, I never call your kind Nazis or Fascists , never. It is because Nazis and Fascist had ideals , whatever they had been etc but you? Nothing really, no personal morals, no faith in anything, no social etiquette.

In ww2 german soviet war

There were 8.7 to 10 million military deaths on the Soviet side

11.4 million Soviet civilians within pre-1939 Soviet borders were killed, and another estimated 3.5 million civilians were killed in the annexed territories.

The Soviet military death: civilian death was 1:1.2 to 1.8 caused by Nazis

Now the Gaza military death: civilian death was 1:10 to 1:20 caused by Israel.

 

[Gary]

In short, these zionists are saying that, we value your life in such a low standard that if the threshold of murder doesn't reach 90%+ population annihilation like the Indian Americans, it is not a massacre.

Of course only buffoons bought these zionists narratives. But the good thing about this is just how easily this will be used against them once they're on the receiving end of an impending massacre.

History has shown us what the jews are all about, 3000+ years of continuous existence since Jacop (PBUH) and they were only given the luxury of statesmanship in a combined time of around less than 250 years in different periods in time, rest of the day they become second class citizens in the many empires of Pagans (Romans and Persians), Muslim or Christian countries and occasionally banished by the rulers of these states. It's so hilarious to think that their entire existence as a nation-state stands on top of the power they actually hijacked from America thousands of miles away.

So yes, enjoy your time zionists. For this will be the last time ever that you will have a state.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Hamas Kills 21 IDF Personnel in Gaza | TURDEF

IDF announced the death of 21 IDF personnel following an attack by Hamas using RPGs on a tank and nearby soldiers.

www.turdef.com

A few highlights regarding how the atrack was conducted

 

[satria]

LoL

 

[Bogeyman]

Iran is ‘directly involved’ in Yemen Houthi rebel ship attacks, US Navy’s Mideast chief tells AP​

Iran is “very directly involved” in ship attacks that Yemen’s Houthi rebels have carried out during Israel’s war against Hamas, the U.S. Navy’s top Mideast commander told The Associated Press on Monday.

Vice Adm. Brad Cooper, the head of the Navy’s 5th Fleet, stopped short of saying Tehran directed individual attacks by the Houthis in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.

However, Cooper acknowledged that attacks associated with Iran have expanded from previously threatening just the Persian Gulf and its Strait of Hormuz into waters across the wider Middle East.

“Clearly, the Houthi actions, probably in terms of their attacks on merchant shipping, are the most significant that we’ve seen in two generations,” he told the AP in a telephone interview. “The facts simply are that they’re attacking the international community; thus, the international response I think you’ve seen.”

Iran’s mission to the United Nations and the Houthi leadership in Yemen’s capital, Sanaa, didn’t respond to a request for comment. However, the Houthis later claimed to have attacked a U.S.-flagged vessel, something that the 5th Fleet dismissed as “patently false.”



Since November, the Iranian-backed Houthis have launched at least 34 attacks on shipping through the waterways leading up to Egypt’s Suez Canal, a vital route for energy and cargo coming from Asia and the Middle East onward to Europe.

The Houthis, a Shiite rebel group that’s held Sanaa since 2014 and been at war with a Saudi-led coalition backing Yemen’s exiled government since 2015, link their attacks to the Israel-Hamas war. However, the ships they’ve targeted increasingly have tenuous links to Israel — or none at all.

In recent days, the U.S. has launched seven rounds of airstrikes on Houthi military sites, targeting air bases under the rebels’ control and suspected missile launch sites.

However, risks for the global economy remain as many ships continue to bypass that route for a longer trip around Africa’s southern tip. That meant lower revenue for Egypt through the Suez Canal, a vital source of hard currency for the country’s troubled economy, as well as higher costs for shipping that could push up global inflation.

As Cooper took command of the 5th Fleet in 2021, the threat to shipping focused primarily around the Persian Gulf and its narrow mouth, the Strait of Hormuz, through which a fifth of all oil traded passes. A series of attacks blamed on Iran and ship seizures by Tehran followed the collapse of Iran’s nuclear deal with world powers.

In his interview with the AP, the Navy commander acknowledged the threat from Iran’s proxies and that its distribution of weapons extended from the Red Sea out to the far reaches of the Indian Ocean. The U.S. has blamed Iran for recent drone attacks on shipping, and a U.S.-owned cargo vessel came under attack from the Houthis in the Gulf of Aden last week.

So far, Iran hasn’t become directly involved in fighting either Israel or the U.S. since the war in Gaza began on Oct. 7. However, Cooper maintained Iran had been directly fueling the Houthi attacks on shipping.

“What I’ll say is Iran is clearly funding, they’re resourcing, they are supplying and they’re providing training,” Cooper said. “They’re obviously very directly involved. There’s no secret there.”

Cooper described the ship attacks striking the Mideast as the worst since the so-called Tanker War of the 1980s. It culminated in a one-day naval battle between Washington and Tehran, and also saw the U.S. Navy accidentally shoot down an Iranian passenger jet, killing 290 people in 1988.

Back then, American naval ships escorted reflagged Kuwaiti oil tankers through the Persian Gulf and the strait after Iranian mines damaged vessels in the region. Cooper said authorities had no current plans to reflag ships and escort them past Yemen.

Instead, the U.S. and its allies employ a “zone defense, and every once and a while we shift to a one-on-one,” he said.

Cooper’s reference to the tensions from more than three decades ago underlines just how precarious the situation in the wider Mideast has become as worries of a regional conflict over the Israel-Hamas war grow.

Monday night, Houthi military spokesman Brig. Gen. Yahya Saree, in a recorded address, claimed an attack in the Gulf of Aden on the Ocean Jazz, a U.S.-flagged ship managed by Seabulk, a company in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The firm declined to comment when reached by the AP. The Ocean Jazz had been in the Red Sea heading south four days ago, according to tracking data.

The 5th Fleet issued an online statement dismissing the Houthi claim.

“The Iranian-backed Houthi terrorists’ report of an alleged successful attack on M/V Ocean Jazz is patently false,” it said. The 5th Fleet “has maintained constant communications with M/V Ocean Jazz throughout its safe transit.”

Cooper spoke to the AP from the sidelines of a drone conference in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. Under his command of the 5th Fleet, the naval force has created Task Force 59, a drone fleet to bolster its patrol of waterways in the region.

Today, a variety of drones provide the 5th Fleet coverage across about 10,000 square miles (25,900 square kilometers) of Mideast waters that the Navy otherwise wouldn’t have eyes on, Cooper said. That helps its efforts to interdict suspected drug and weapons shipments.

U.S. forces seized Iranian-made missile parts and other weaponry this month from a ship bound for the Houthis in a raid that saw two Navy SEALs go missing. The U.S. military’s Central Command said Sunday it now believes the SEALs are dead.

While not directly saying his fleet’s drones played a part in the seizure, Cooper hinted at it.

“They are specifically designed to conduct interdiction operations,” he said. He added: “There’s no squeaking anything by it.”

Cooper’s command is set to end in February with the upcoming arrival of Rear Adm. George Wikoff in Bahrain. He noted that the Navy and merchant shippers still face a serious threat from the Houthis as he prepares to leave.

“What we need is a Houthi decision to stop attacking international merchant ships. Period,” Cooper said.

Iran is 'directly involved' in Yemen Houthi rebel ship attacks, US Navy's Mideast chief tells AP

Vice Adm. Brad Cooper stopped short of telling the AP that Tehran directed individual attacks by the Houthis in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.

apnews.com

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[Relic]

Very childish analyse. If the sides are equal qua strength, may the best win.

But in this case it is Palestinians with RPGs and AK47s fighting against the most advanced militairies of the world (Israel, US, UK, even Germany and tiny Netherland are sending supplies).

The best man in combat is the one who brings the best capabilities to the battlefield. War is not a test of purity. It's a test of will power and capability.

 

[Relic]

We can say the same things about Ukraine, can't we?
But let's face it , you and your ilk are just the kind of modern trash, which is only interested in the hate and resentment. No any ideas in life apart from that.
This is funny world, people here are trying to debate with you, I would too if there is anything to debate about. There is nothing no subject here to debate about. What are you? Who are you?
What are you stand for ? What are your ideas? Nothing but but empty shell. Narcissistic, nihilistic charlatan.
I know all of this for a long time about your kind, that's the reason, I never call your kind Nazis or Fascists , never. It is because Nazis and Fascist had ideals , whatever they had been etc but you? Nothing really, no personal morals, no faith in anything, no social etiquette.

I'm more than happy to debate anything happening on the ground. But as I've said from the beginning, I'm not going to be emotionally manipulated by the ongoings / outcome of the war. I think it's best for the West if Israel has some measure of success, because anything that hurts the Iran / Russia alliance is good for the NATO alliance. A weakened Russia and Iran, also keeps the Western alliance network safer from Chinese expansionist desires in the Pacific. That said, I don't want a complete victory for Israel because I think balance of power in the Middle East is more important than anything. Ideally, Israel, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Oman, Jordan and Egypt will normalize relations and the rest if the region will sort out their own issues.

 

[mehmed beg]

Your mental illness is showing again. Take a deep breath and slowly back away from the keyboard.

I'm more than happy to debate anything happening on the ground. But as I've said from the beginning, I'm not going to be emotionally manipulated by the ongoings / outcome of the war. I think it's best for the West if Israel has some measure of success, because anything that hurts the Iran / Russia alliance is good for the NATO alliance. A weakened Russia and Iran, also keeps the Western alliance network safer from Chinese expansionist desires in the Pacific. That said, I don't want a complete victory for Israel because I think balance of power in the Middle East is more important than anything. Ideally, Israel, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Oman, Jordan and Egypt will normalize relations and the rest if the region will sort out their own issues.

Don't talk too much, I don't know why you inserting all your drivel about Russia, China and Iran into this topic.
I don't give a damn what you support nor I particularly care why you support Israel. Just I want you to be consistent and say Adolf Hitler was great guy, he could had but he didn't kill everyone. That's how it was on the ground.
Of course, you want the complete annihilation of Palestinians , practically you approve of it . In the context of your interest, that's logical to think. What balance , further existence of Palestinians provides to you? Balance between whom exactly? Nonsense.
What exactly can be debated here? Shall I listen, for God's know what time from you what is the war ? I was in one? Read your tiered cliche? Your endless willingness to give " strategic outlook " which is basically repeatative? And by the way it is not even that in its root?
You ain't even aware of the basic reality, you think that anyone a bit normal can accept the statement that it is really humane from Israel that they didn't kill all Palestinians?
Go to The Hague with that statement and try to help Israeli defence with that? Since you believe that it is logical and your view is pragmatic, why don't you and your ilk go to the Hague and present the petition to to the Jury? I am sure that no Israeli attorney would want to say such thing like you. Practically, it would assure quickly and complete victory of South Africa.
Listen, this logically thinking , isn't it , if not then Israeli defence would use it as an argument in their defence????

So come on pal , I will say that Israel is right as long as you say that Hitler is right, I would say Israel is alright killing Palestinians as Hitler was right killing the Jews.
In principle, we would say the same thing here, don't you think?
I am being generous here, because between 1933 to 1945 , the Nazis didn't say even 10% what Israeli officials have said in the last 4 months. Even, they didn't say what you have said.
If not , go to The Hague and in front of the court write on transparent what you have written here? Will you?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749852569696903430

 

[Scott Summers]

Israel is not "massacering" Palestinian civilians. If you want to have an honest conversation about the conflict, you have stop perpetuating that nonsense. Israel allowed hundreds of thousands of Gazans to flee to a safer part of Palestine, many on foot, using a route established by Israel. If their goal was the extermination of the Palestinian population they would have simply bombed those routes on masse as those people transited to the south, and killed them in enormous numbers, while they were easy targets.

Israel has no interest in exterminating the people of Gaza. They know those people will return to their homes and rebuild, after the war. That said, they have no problem if some die as a consequence of being inside / near buildings being used for military purposes. There is a future in which the two sides will work together to achieve some form of peace. That simply isn't the situation right now.

Poor writing of someone lacking knowledge of the conflict and the region. Only authority talk like Wikipedia.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749781546876260374

Hezbollah totally destroyed the Meron Air Control center in the north of Israel The IOF admits damage was inflicted to the Meron Air Control center due to Hezbollah's rocket attack. The IOF added that the base has a backup system. But reports from the field say that the center is totally destroyed. Because of this, the flights of the Israeli army in the region have been drastically reduced.

 

[Kartal1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749909458740740159

 

[satria]

Al-Quds Brigades show scenes of targeting a gathering of occupation soldiers and vehicles in Jabalia

 

[Scott Summers]

They really falling like flies.

I am very interested in the numbers of KIA and WIA.

 

[Bogeyman]

Al-Quds Brigades show scenes of targeting a gathering of occupation soldiers and vehicles in Jabalia

They shoot with homemade guided missiles.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749821844838924501

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749898375774822413

BREAKING: Qassam released footage of the operation that lead to the demise of 22 IDF soldiers.

Statement: “At exactly 16:00 yesterday evening, the Al-Qassam were able to carry out a combined operation east of the Maghazi camp, where they targeted a house in which an IDF engineering force was holed up with an anti-personnel shell that led to the explosion of the ammunition and engineering equipment it was in possession of, completely blowing up the house.

And simultaneously the Mujahideen destroyed the "Merkvah" tank that was securing the force with the "Al-Yassin 105" shell.

They also detonated a minefield with another IDF force that was present in the same place, which led to all of them being killed or wounded, and the Qassam fighters withdrew to their bases safely.”