Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[Sanchez]

It was Germany who committed crimes against European jews

Nope, it was most of Europe.

 

[Baryshx]

Please... War is not about morality. It's about what you're willing to do do to win and what you can stomach as acceptable collateral. Israel is no "better" than anyone. They're simply one actor in a difficult conflict, while Hamas is the other, backed by a Palestinian society that supports and tolerates them, therefore, putting themselves in Israel's line of fire.

Morality in war is secondary to victory.

So then, you take what has happened to the Jews since the beginning of the world with great equanimity as normal? After all, wars are fought and the strong win?

 

[Afif]

Nope, it was most of Europe.

Exactly, people find it hard to believe. but the foundations of the NAZI sentiment toward jews (that significantly escalated later) was shared by most of the Europe at that time.

 

[Gary]

Nope, it was most of Europe.

Actually most of the world. Since their expulsion by Nebuchadnezzar. But the widely documented systematic persecution are done by Nazi Germany. There's also the Pogrom and in Austria (I forgot the name). Most people will be surprised just how much hate European christian had for the Jews before WW2. For the simple fact that jews are accused of having a role in the killing of Jesus.

 

[Relic]

So then, you take what has happened to the Jews since the beginning of the world with great equanimity as normal? After all, wars are fought and the strong win?

Yes. It doesn't mean horrible things don't happen to people, but I'm not going to pretend that Israel is fighting from some moral high ground. There are two willing combatants in this conflict. Let the better war fighters prevail.

 

[AWP]

Hey guys , I have red the previous replies and sorry but I will be harsh. so if you are one of those people who can't accept any criticism then it's better you leave.


The main reasons of this sudden attack is what years of persecution, humiliation and closure by Israel towards the Palestinians. The thing is no one here have any idea what is really going on not even me but I at least have an idea. Day by day we see news of killing in West Bank or unlawful abductions or house demolitions or people have to spend hours on roads due to check up points or young kids have hard time go to schools or sick people can't travel to get healthy or etc. All these factors throw out the years have made a volcano that we have seen today. Even people from Israel know this long time ago that one day this will bite them in the ass and this extreme and radical pressure by Israel is why this all happened, Don't blame us.

To the Turkish members here ( since it's a Turkish forum and I love Turkish people since I carry that Islamic unity value in my heart ) . If you support Israel due to what Israel bring to the economical table, I have no issue with it. If you support Palestine due to the Islamic unity and never accepting the injustice, I have no issue with it. But to support and simp Israel because you hate Erdogan and his Islamist then you really need a psychological check up.

If you are Pro-Israel and supported Azerbaijan it's only because of politics and interests , not because you believe that karabakh is an occupation by the Armenians. And one day you might support Armenia, you will never know.

If you are Pro-Israel and supporting Ukraine, I don't even what to tell you

Please don't take my words for granted, it's just a reality checkup. Now I will answer each false post here.

Free Palestine

 

[AWP]

Okay now that is fucked. I want to remain neutral, but to Isreal, Hamas is what PKK is to Türkiye.

Difference is Palestine is an occupied land and PKK have no land. And yah since we bring PKK to the plate, it's funny that you have to agree and be under your ally the US , the biggest PKK supporter.

You friend the US and the US friend PKK, PKK and some Kurdish party get some sort of Israeli intelligence and that was proven, You can't do thing about it unless the White House says so, that hurts you ?!, Yes , Can't you do something about it ?! No baby

 

[AWP]

Those idiots are firing everything moving. There is no logical reason or justification for this. This is terrorism.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710547208813040068

They are firing at Israeli police car

Watch again befoe you spread false posts

 

[TheInsider]

I have no dogs in this fight. I wish success to both sides. Both sides are sinking to deeper levels of low.
This will probably end up with Israel leveling every building and removing everyone from the Gaza Strip. Israel has enough ammo to level every building in the Gaza Strip.

 

[AWP]

https://x.com/The_Invoker_/status/1710570611402260617?s=20

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710611358696472864

This inhuman and barbaric clip of the treatment of dead female soldiers should serve as a lesson to draw for those advocating the inclusion of women in front-line combat

First of all she is not dead

Secondly she is a soldier and she is wearing the IDF attire, she is a poisoner of war like any soldier. She joined the army and she have an idea what would happen and she must bear the consequences, male or female on difference.

Stop this feminism bullshit

 

[Xenon54]

Lol, years ago the language used to be strong, what happened now Erdogan ?

He realized taking sides in this conflict hurts turkeys interests.
(I hope so)

 

[AWP]

He realized taking sides in this conflict hurts turkeys interests.
(I hope so)

Erdogan care about turkeys interests ?! bruh

 

[Xenon54]

Erdogan care about turkeys interests ?! bruh

Well he realised he must after economy going down the drain and all that ummah BS not making dollars or even bringing any political leverage. If anything then things started to go south once he started taking sides.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Hamas has carried out a terrorist attack and will suffer the consequences.

Can i ask why isreal doesnt just level everything? No one will stop you. And just like Turks have seen with Arab refugees the wider Arab world wont care either.

 

[NEKO]

Most people will be surprised just how much hate European christian had for the Jews before WW2.

And in the modern day its the Muslims.
Oh, could this thing build up till the doomsday leading to that end game scenario?

 

[AWP]

Atatürk rebelled against the ottoman empire too, any nation would have done it as an empire collapses, frankly bringing up events from hundreds of years ago is stupid

Loool, He can't and will not answer you

 

[500]

This is a map of all settlements where entered Hamas militants. Most are cleared by now.

It include two towns - Ofakim, where 4 terrorists held hostage a family (family released safely, all 4 Hamas killed) and Sderot where group of militants captured a police station.

In kibbuts Beeri 50 civilians were held hostage, but released in special force operation.

The most deadly incident was near kibbuts Reim, where was a big music festival with lots of youth. Dozens were shot, many kidnapped to Gaza.

Overall more than 300 killed and dozens hijacked.

Thats biggest intelligence and military failure since Yom Kippur war, which was exactly 50 years ago.

 

[Woland]

They are firing at Israeli police car

Watch again befoe you spread false posts

Stop excusing the inexcusable. What about this child: https://streamable.com/wdj3l3 - was he a valid target too? What about the civilians shot at the bus station? The civilians whose throats were slit after they were dragged out of their cars? If you're making excuses for these crimes, you're part of the problem.

 

[TabmachineV2]

Loool, He can't and will not answer you

Dude coming on here and talking crap to everyone does you no good.

To clarify for others, I have had the fortune to have a number of close Palestinian friends and they are some of the most decent and gracious people I've known. Imo the best of the Arabs. Please don't take this guy as a basis for generalization.

 

[AWP]

Stop excusing the inexcusable. What about this child: https://streamable.com/wdj3l3 - was he a valid target too? What about the civilians shot at the bus station? The civilians whose throats were slit after they were dragged out of their cars? If you're making excuses for these crimes, you're part of the problem.

Can I use the same excuse when Ukrainian soldiers killed civilians in the current war ?

Or the Ukraine card is not valid here ?