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One way to avoid al Quds being attacked would be for an independent force to inspect it to check that there is no Hamas bunker under it. A ceasefire while UN inspectors check it out?

I suggest

- inspect it
- if there is no bunker, leave UN personnel there to ensure Hamas does not sneak in
- if there is a bunker, a lot of people in the hospital would probably die
- if inspection is blocked, a lot of people in the hospital would probably die
 
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You need to take their troll into account and I'm not even talking about normal trolls, but religious funded Salafi institution that works as their de facto online trolls deflecting criticism. These are their first line of defense against Arabs and Muslims who disliked their attitude

"Preachers" like Faris Al Hamadi, who despite the bombings in Gaza urge muslims not to boycott Israeli products because it's against the Sharia (yes he actually think like this)

You also need to monitor their Saudi funded Salafists here like Khalid Basalamah or Firanda Andirja, my guess sooner or later these guys will try to normalize things and present normalization with the Zionists as part of the Sharia. I cannot prove it yet, but I have a feeling they will.
This is what I'm talking about


Meet Faris Al Hamadi, UAE backed Islamic "preacher" that the UAE state fostered to deflect criticism. and He's a Salafi. And now the enemy is using his fatwa to trample Palestinian cause.

It has come to my attention that Saudi/UAE backed Salafists has this strong leaning to Israel, here's an Indonesian Salafi Riyadh Bajrey calling Hamas a Shia and its leader Ismail Haniyeh a coward


If you are Muslims, please watch out for these "Salafists", avoid them, attack their personalities online, tell your family and friend not to attend any of their sermon or pray in their Mosques. Thank you
 
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Instead of holding Arab and western leaders accountable, throwing mouse to a random place will achive what kind of greatness or will it bring Freedom for Palestinians?


I refuse to participate in boycotts guess what everybody was guilt tripping me.

Like my brother.

We have been boycotting for 20 fcking years and have been protesting for 20 fcking years.

What has changed?

Starbucks does not produce planes, guns and missiles.

Still everytime I talk about this its controversial among my family and the community.

Why dont you boycott international and domestic travel since Airbus and Boeing make planes and helicopters for Israel.

But nah they wont want to hear that so they can post their travels on instagram.
 

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I knew this would happen.

I knew one day that Turkish built hospitals would be targeted.
But why Turkey could not say , It's a red line to attack on the hospital . Why Turkey can't say it will be a work of declaration of war ?
All leaders are giving technical lip service , Arab leaders have no courage to give even lip service let alone a threat . Sisi is a real Zionist, if Israel kill all 2.3 million Palestinians , Sisi will not spend a word .
 

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But why Turkey could not say , It's a red line to attack on the hospital . Why Turkey can't say it will be a work of declaration of war ?
All leaders are giving technical lip service , Arab leaders have no courage to give even lip service let alone a threat . Sisi is a real Zionist, if Israel kill all 2.3 million Palestinians , Sisi will not spend a word .

Israelis killed 9 Turkish citizens in international waters in 2010.

Which got swept away under the rug.

Only a Turkish Wagner like group could go and help Palestinians.

Dont expect too much from Erdogan.

Also going to war with Israel means going to war with the USA.
 
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From 2010:

Wikileaks cable: Israeli intelligence chief encouraged Hamas takeover of Gaza Strip​


In the latest revelation to come out of the hundreds of thousands of leaked diplomatic cables provided by the website ‘Wikileaks’, a diplomatic exchange between then Israeli Director of Military Intelligence, Major General Amos Yadlin, and US Ambassador to Israel Richard Jones showed Israeli support for a Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip which Israel could then declare Gaza to be a ‘hostile entity’.The Hamas party won Palestinian parliamentary elections in January 2006, but was prevented from forming a government as required by the Palestinian constitution. In June 2007, after months of attempted takeovers by the US-supported Fateh party, the Hamas party was able to form their government in Gaza. The cable in question was recorded just hours before the Hamas government was formed in Gaza in June 2007.


In the transcript, Yadlin told the US Ambassador that he would be “very happy” if Hamas formed a government in Gaza “as long as they have no (air or sea) port.” He added that Israel would then work with the rival Palestinian political party, Fateh, to form a government in the West Bank and work to undermine the Hamas government in Gaza.


That is exactly what took place, just after the meeting between Yadlin and Ambassador Jones, as Hamas created its government in Gaza and Israel launched a massive siege, and the largest-ever assault on Gaza in late December 2008.


In another leaked cable, Yadlin spoke with US Congressmember Robert Wexler in December 2008, saying ‘Abu Mazen ‘(Mahmoud Abbas) and (Salam) Fayyad are controlling the West Bank while the Hamas has established a terror entity in Gaza”.
 

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From 2010:

Wikileaks cable: Israeli intelligence chief encouraged Hamas takeover of Gaza Strip​


In the latest revelation to come out of the hundreds of thousands of leaked diplomatic cables provided by the website ‘Wikileaks’, a diplomatic exchange between then Israeli Director of Military Intelligence, Major General Amos Yadlin, and US Ambassador to Israel Richard Jones showed Israeli support for a Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip which Israel could then declare Gaza to be a ‘hostile entity’.The Hamas party won Palestinian parliamentary elections in January 2006, but was prevented from forming a government as required by the Palestinian constitution. In June 2007, after months of attempted takeovers by the US-supported Fateh party, the Hamas party was able to form their government in Gaza. The cable in question was recorded just hours before the Hamas government was formed in Gaza in June 2007.


In the transcript, Yadlin told the US Ambassador that he would be “very happy” if Hamas formed a government in Gaza “as long as they have no (air or sea) port.” He added that Israel would then work with the rival Palestinian political party, Fateh, to form a government in the West Bank and work to undermine the Hamas government in Gaza.


That is exactly what took place, just after the meeting between Yadlin and Ambassador Jones, as Hamas created its government in Gaza and Israel launched a massive siege, and the largest-ever assault on Gaza in late December 2008.


In another leaked cable, Yadlin spoke with US Congressmember Robert Wexler in December 2008, saying ‘Abu Mazen ‘(Mahmoud Abbas) and (Salam) Fayyad are controlling the West Bank while the Hamas has established a terror entity in Gaza”.

This makes matters worse not only the Palestinians have shitty corrupt leaders but puppet ones who do Israel's bidding.

Israel's divide and conquer policy is working. While Arab countries are now doing a normalisation process with Israel.

This really sucks to be Palestinian.
 

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And why would the Chinese want to repeat the Japanese error and start a losing war?



If they’ll wait for Russia to close in on Kyiv, they have a long time to wait, so they can stick to their long term army modernization plans.

Key word is Kyev closing in and US get bogged in the mid east ground war


every time i see those dopey missile attacks all i can think of is that f'k all is being strategically achieved for the Palestinians and it always provides isreal with a great excuse to go in and smash them up. This incremental game over a period of time expands Israel and reduces Palestine.

Hamas and Iran have been great business for Isreal, moving forward they will continue to be.

Hamas get their back into the corner . This is their hail mary attempts

merica needs terrorist groups like al qaeda, isis, pkk and only a master of Terrorist netaniyahu.

What's else the reasoning to keep the MIC actives and profitable ?
 

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From 2010:

Wikileaks cable: Israeli intelligence chief encouraged Hamas takeover of Gaza Strip​


In the latest revelation to come out of the hundreds of thousands of leaked diplomatic cables provided by the website ‘Wikileaks’, a diplomatic exchange between then Israeli Director of Military Intelligence, Major General Amos Yadlin, and US Ambassador to Israel Richard Jones showed Israeli support for a Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip which Israel could then declare Gaza to be a ‘hostile entity’.The Hamas party won Palestinian parliamentary elections in January 2006, but was prevented from forming a government as required by the Palestinian constitution. In June 2007, after months of attempted takeovers by the US-supported Fateh party, the Hamas party was able to form their government in Gaza. The cable in question was recorded just hours before the Hamas government was formed in Gaza in June 2007.


In the transcript, Yadlin told the US Ambassador that he would be “very happy” if Hamas formed a government in Gaza “as long as they have no (air or sea) port.” He added that Israel would then work with the rival Palestinian political party, Fateh, to form a government in the West Bank and work to undermine the Hamas government in Gaza.


That is exactly what took place, just after the meeting between Yadlin and Ambassador Jones, as Hamas created its government in Gaza and Israel launched a massive siege, and the largest-ever assault on Gaza in late December 2008.


In another leaked cable, Yadlin spoke with US Congressmember Robert Wexler in December 2008, saying ‘Abu Mazen ‘(Mahmoud Abbas) and (Salam) Fayyad are controlling the West Bank while the Hamas has established a terror entity in Gaza”.

In short : Israel banks on Hamas to further weaken the Palestinian cause, not knowing that in a decade Hamas will sting them and achieve the crowning achievement of killing more Jews than anybody else in the last 70 years or so.
 

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Remember the American shortsightedness that resulted in their failure in Iraq and Afghanistan? Well, The Israeli plan to relocate Gazans to Sinai would have made one group particularly happy. ISIS wilayah-SInai LMAO



Sinai has seen a downward trend of ISIS-S related attack due to their shrinking manpower and pressure from the Egyptian army. But imagine for a moment if the Israeli plan moves forward:

  • an influx of refugees
  • many of them young men
  • many of them poor with no economic opportunity after they lost their homeland and now practically a refugee in another arab land.
  • many of them are in vengeance mode

If I'm ISIS, I'd just sent some of my operatives there and offer the youth in those area 2 choice I'm sure the Gazans won't reject:

1. Fulus/Money
2. The means of vengeance.

That's easy pool of recruits right there.

Yeah another shortsighted plan in the making lmao.
 

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