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Why would Israel attack Turkey or vice versa?

If we're being hypothetical, our response would more likely be tectonic geopolitical shifts rather than a direct hot-conflict as we don't have(yet) the means to take on IAF or defend ourselves against the ballistic projectiles that may come our way.
I used to work with a Ukrainian and when Ukraine transferring Nuclear to Russia, I asked him why Ukraine doing this? He said , we(Russia and Ukraine) same pple. We are not going to fight each other. I would like to ask him same question again today, unfortunately he is not working with me anymore.

Why would Israel attack and kill humanitarian ship (MV Mavi Marmara)? It just a humanitarian ship.
 

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We are not going to fight each other. I would like to ask him same question again today, unfortunately he is not working with me anymore.
I guess he will turn around when he sees you.

Why would Israel attack and kill humanitarian ship (MV Mavi Marmara)? It just a humanitarian ship.
Complicated issue.
 

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Why would Israel attack and kill humanitarian ship (MV Mavi Marmara)? It just a humanitarian ship.
It was a humanitarian ship that was purposed to bring down the blockade and show the world the weakness of the Israelis. It was our stupidity to let a civilian ship to fare those waters without any protection. We were either going to war against Israel or not let that ship sail away from our shores. We chose the middle, sent those people to their death and severed all the relations with Israel for a decade. Look what that brought us today? We could have a mediator role as a trusted entity by both sides and conciliate. But no. Instead, we chose to stay aside and the greatest minds that are ruling Iran whispered their grand plans to the ears of the Palestinians. In the end, they are the only ones who care about the Palestinians, right? Their shrewd intelligence has peaked with Oct 7th and brought Palestine to their victory. Spelling the end of their suffering. Great minds, indeed.

Believe me when I say this. Mavi Marmara hurt Palestinians more than it hurt us. Today could've been different if other choices were made. Iran makes calculated moves only when it's their stake. For others, it knows only to give dumb weapons and whisper poison. "Go lash out against the enemy. Your cause is right and God Almighty is with the believers". You don't need to look for enemies when it was you who gave all the reasons to the enemy for their genocidal rampage.
 
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My country isn't involved in any of this in any way whatsoever (beyond the occassional irrational scolding of Netanyahu).

I do, however, wish the IDF the best in the inevitable stomping out of your buddies.
 

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How is your country's ground invasion going? Everything allright with your family. Serious question.
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Current control. Green - Shia villages, Blue - Sunni, Red - Christian, Yellow - Druze.
 

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I myself saw a picture of the body and it was very close. I would wait a bit more before confirming, but so far reports point at that Yahya Sinwar lost his life.



Yeah, seems unconfirmed as of now with the big major media outlets, but interesting. They seemed pretty sure right away with Nasrallah given they dropped a building on his head, but usually it's taken a couple of days for them to be sure with other top-level dirtbags, Hamas & Hezbollah alike. Apparently he's been pretty incommunicado for many weeks anyway, right, laying really low and people were questioning whether he was even alive?

Only thing giving me pause is it seems it was a small-arms fire confrontation. Sinwar used to do the dirty work himself back in his day no doubt, but would that guy be personally engaging in firefights these days now that he's top dog? Either the walls were closing in and he decided to go all suicide-by-IDF in a blaze of glory, or alternatively it could just be some look-alike. I'd wait on the majors reporting on it before believing it.


EDIT: Outlets like The Guardian & CNN reporting it by now, gives it more weight than a tweet. Seems it's the IDF confirming it though, so of course the conspiracies & denial will be pretty rampant among the usual from-the-river-to-the-sea type idiots. Hope they do it a little more transparently than the US did with ventilated-head Bin Laden, kinda feel like you might want to let the U.S. or some non-Israel-aligned university or whatever do a DNA test & a statement too. Can't do much about the coping-mechanism jihadi types who'll deny it no matter what, but you can prove it to the normals.

Good news either way, as with Hezbollah there aren't really any credible people to replace him with, they're already corpses. And whoever they pass the gig onto is no doubt going to be hard-pressed to be as vicious/psychotic as Sinwar, and most likely they'll be dumber.
 
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