Kazakhstan|News & Discussions

[Ryder]

Can't blame them Turks here do act like arabs.

Central Asian Turks most of them act like Russians.

 

[Manomed]

Central Asian Turks most of them act like Russians.

Also you should talk against the ravenman who called Turks of turkey bunch of devshirmes. The ones I said were light unlike what he said

 

[Barry]

jesus give it a rest. Classic white-man divide and conquer nonsense when you lads are starting to bring genetics and ancestry into discussion about who the real Turk is.

 

[Kartal1]

Stay on topic and refrain from insults! Please use the report button in such cases. Messages were deleted and warnings were given. Thank you!

 

[Saithan]

Let’s not forget that you can find any kind in any country. Turks in Turkey will be judged based on our governments actions and their supporters. Until it changes. Same with other Turkic countries. What matters is we are allowed to support them and foster cultural ties and focus on culture in education. That is the only way to either reconnect or gain your own cultural identity.

 

[Ryder]

Let’s not forget that you can find any kind in any country. Turks in Turkey will be judged based on our governments actions and their supporters. Until it changes. Same with other Turkic countries. What matters is we are allowed to support them and foster cultural ties and focus on culture in education. That is the only way to either reconnect or gain your own cultural identity.

I argued with an Uzbek once. He was a piece of shit to the core.

He loved calling Turks of Turkey as fake or Turkified Greeks when I called him a Turkified Persian he got triggered.

A real piece of shit does not mean I generalise but if they like playing this game of name calling we can play it too.

 

[HTurk]

I argued with an Uzbek once. He was a piece of shit to the core.

He loved calling Turks of Turkey as fake or Turkified Greeks when I called him a Turkified Persian he got triggered.

A real piece of shit does not mean I generalise but if they like playing this game of name calling we can play it too.

Let's open a thread about intragroup racism in the Turkic community. There are many documented incidents in Central Asia where Ahıska Turks got attacked and lynched by Kyrgyz and Kazakh Turks.

 

[Ryder]

Let's open a thread about intragroup racism in the Turkic community. There are many documented incidents in Central Asia where Ahıska Turks got attacked and lynched by Kyrgyz and Kazakh Turks.

I know about Ahiska Turks getting lynched in a pogrom by Kyrgz, Kazakhs and the Uzbeks.

Pretty sad really.

Honestly I have a feeling they would hang us Turks and Azerbaijani Turks if given the chance to be honest.

 

[Anastasius]

I wouldn't say Kazakhs are all that racist against Turks or Azerbaijanis. Granted, this was early 2000s but I've noticed that Kazakhs tended to look up to Azerbaijanis. There are some Russified pieces of s**t among them but you can also find South Azerbaijanis who disregard their Turkic roots in favor of an Iranian identity (less so nowadays than before but still).

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480106162456510464

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480106162456510464

hm... isn't that against some kind of regulation ?

They're not UN Peacekeeping units

Anyway

Turkic states to lend support to Kazakhstan: Çavuşoğlu - Türkiye News

Turkey hopes that Kazakhstan will reach stability and peace as soon as possible, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has said, stressing the Organization of Turkic States (OTS) will give all kinds of support to the central Asian country

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

Support and keep the cooperation alive. Any hostile stance will get in the way of cultural heritage strengthening.

 

[Bogeyman]

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Israeli NSO Spyware Found on Activists’ Phones in Kazakhstan​

The phones of at least four activists who are critical of their government in Kazakhstan were found to have been infected with software developed by Israeli spyware firm NSO Group, a forensic analysis by Amnesty International’s Security Lab said Thursday.



Three of the four had received prior warning from Apple at the end of November that their iPhones could have been infected by a “state-sponsored attacker.” NSO’s clients are usually state intelligence agencies from around the world. Its Pegasus spyware can provide clients with remote access to successfully hacked phones.


Amnesty did not identify who the client could be in this case.

An NSO spokesperson told Haaretz that as “Amnesty chose to publish accusations in the media, rather than provide us with the information for the purpose of thorough investigations … we cannot refer to an alleged report we have not seen, published by an organization that has been known for publishing false accusations against NSO.”

An Israeli man was killed in clashes in Kazakhstan on Friday, the day the country's president ordered forces to use lethal fire amid anti-government protests. The demonstrations, which began Januray 2 as a response to a fuel price hike have swelled into a broad movement against the government and ex-leader Nursultan Nazarbayev.


Over the summer, an international consortium of journalists, led by Paris-based NGO Forbidden Stories in collaboration with Amnesty International’s Security Lab, published a major investigation into a leak of 50,000 potential targets selected for possible snooping by NSO’s clients. Reports at the time said that up to 2,000 of them were linked to Kazakhstan, with potential targets including a former prime minister and current President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev.

Tokayev became president of the Central Asian country in 2019 after being named the successor of strongman Nursultan Nazarbayev, who nominally resigned after almost three decades’ rule. Nazarbayev still retains key leadership roles and remains head of the country’s security council, maintaining what Reuters terms ”sweeping powers.”



According to Amnesty International’s Security Lab, the four devices were “infected from as early as June 2021” – just as the global investigation, which Haaretz was a part of, was being published.


Amnesty’s lab examined nine phones in all, and four were found to have been infected. The victims belong to a progressive civil society group called “Wake up, Kazakhstan” (“Oyan, Qazaqstan”) and their phones were “infected with the spyware between 3 and 5 June 2021,” Amnesty stated. It added that the “surveillance campaign continued until at least July 2021.”

Apple began notifying victims at the end of November that their phones may have been compromised. Three of the four targets had received such messages but the fourth had not, indicating that there may be additional victims in Kazakhstan.



The notifications followed news that the U.S.-based tech giant had filed a lawsuit against NSO, accusing it of helping its clients break into Apple’s mobile software, iOS, through an “exploit” of its iMessage service.


Last week, Reuters and others reported that anywhere between nine and 11 U.S. State Department officials working in Uganda and using non-U.S. phone numbers were also targeted.


NSO has recently been blacklisted by the U.S. Department of Commerce, along with another Israeli cyberware firm called Candiru. NSO was likely placed on the U.S. blacklist because its software was allegedly used by one of its clients to target the U.S. officials.


NSO Group told Reuters last week that it did not have any indication that its tools were being used against U.S. officials, but said it canceled access for the relevant customers and would investigate the claims made in the report.


“If our investigation shall show these actions indeed happened with NSO’s tools, such customers will be terminated permanently and legal actions will take place,” an NSO spokesperson said, adding that NSO will also “cooperate with any relevant government authority and present the full information we will have.”


NSO has long said it only sells its products to government law enforcement and intelligence clients, helping them monitor security threats, and is not directly involved in surveillance operations.


Historically, some of its best-known clients have included Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Mexico.


Israel’s Defense Ministry must approve export licenses for NSO – which has close ties to Israel’s defense and intelligence communities – in order for it to sell its technology globally.


In a statement given to Reuters, the Israeli Embassy in Washington said the targeting of U.S. officials would be a serious breach of its rules.


“Cyber products like the one mentioned are supervised and licensed to be exported to governments only for purposes related to counterterrorism and severe crimes,” an embassy spokesperson said. “The licensing provisions are very clear and if these claims are true, it is a severe violation of these provisions.”


Kazakhstan is in the midst of a crackdown on social media, claiming recently that it had reached a deal with Facebook’s Meta to allow it to take down posts. Meta denied the claim, which came as the country advanced “data localization” legislation that would allow such actions.

Israeli NSO spyware found on activists’ phones in Kazakhstan

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480225193868025865

"After the end of the counter-terrorism operation, none of the CSTO peacekeepers will remain in Kazakhstan" and "the CSTO peacekeepers are coming to Kazakhstan to defend strategic and military facilities," said Berik Uali, spokesman for the President of Kazakhstan.

 

[Anastasius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480225193868025865

"After the end of the counter-terrorism operation, none of the CSTO peacekeepers will remain in Kazakhstan" and "the CSTO peacekeepers are coming to Kazakhstan to defend strategic and military facilities," said Berik Uali, spokesman for the President of Kazakhstan.

Naive but let's see what happens.

 

[Ryder]

Naive but let's see what happens.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1479039944974819328

 

[Saithan]

Kazakhstan: 'Growing suggestion violence linked to power struggle'

There are growing suggestions violence in Kazakhstan is linked to a power struggle within the ruling elite, the BBC's Steve Rosenberg reports from the capital.

www.bbc.com

Kazakhstan: 'Growing suggestion violence linked to power struggle'​

Kazakhstan: 'Growing suggestion violence linked to power struggle'Close

There are growing suggestions that violence in Kazakhstan is linked to a power struggle within the ruling elite, says the BBC's Steve Rosenberg who is reporting from the capital, Nur-Sultan.
The authorities say more than 5,000 people have been arrested as part of investigations into the unrest that has gripped the nation over the last week.

 

[500]

I wonder where is Nazarbaev, is he actually alive?

 

[what]

I wonder where is Nazarbaev, is he actually alive?

Enjoying retirement in his mansions in Europe or US, probably.

 

[Saithan]

CSTO troops to begin withdrawal from Kazakhstan in 2 days: Tokayev

Kazakhstan's President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev said Tuesday that a contingent of Russia-led forces would begin leaving the troubled Central Asian...

www.dailysabah.com

He's probably keeping low profile, which is the smart thing to do. Especially if he's blamed for much of the issues.

He should have washed his hands clean after leaving, that would have been the smartest thing to do.

 

[Kartal1]

I wonder where is Nazarbaev, is he actually alive?

According to rumors he is in Switzerland together with family members.