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After Israel, Uncle Sam has an appetite too.

The Russian naval base in Tartus should be replaced by a US naval base in the same location, suggests American Middle East scholar Michael Rubin on 19FortyFive.
The majority of Syrian Alawites live in Latakia, a region of Syria along the Mediterranean coast. […] And it is no coincidence that Latakia is home to the Russian naval base in Tartus. Although Russian President Vladimir Putin says that Russian ships are still in Tartus, reports from Syria indicate that the Russians are leaving, Rubin writes.

The upheaval in Syria opens up new opportunities for the United States. Rubin further suggests that “the Alawites’ main interest is survival, not participation in Iran’s Axis of Resistance or an alliance with Putin.”

Trump should offer a deal: The United States will support Alawite autonomy in Latakia. […] And the US Navy will be ready to protect them with its aircraft if Syrian Sunni forces try to advance into the region. In exchange, the US will take control of the Russian naval base in Tartus
– Mr. Rubin expressed his thoughts.
The author does not stop there. He suggests that by occupying Tartus, the US will achieve several goals at once.
This includes pushing Russia out of the Mediterranean Sea into the Black Sea, where the Russian fleet will immediately become vulnerable to attacks from Ukraine, and a threat to obstinate Turkey , - queted the russian «Reporter»
the US means trouble for Syria. it is there primarily to prevent democracy from flourishing in the country. the US should leave Syria like Russia did. They must not be allowed to achieve any counter-revolution goals like they did in Egypt, Tunisia, and are attempting to do in Libya and Sudan. I've written a few posts about the future of Syria after Assad. Anyone can find them at threatwatchers.org
 

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Is this real because it is extremely stupid? For one thing, how will it push the Russian fleet into the Black Sea? The only gateway to the black sea is closed.

A naval base in Tartus will also be within range of Turkey's weapons systems, so not really a good place to put a navel base if you are tring to threaten Turkey.
The US is currently Turkiye's biggest threat.
 

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the US means trouble for Syria. it is there primarily to prevent democracy from flourishing in the country. the US should leave Syria like Russia did. They must not be allowed to achieve any counter-revolution goals like they did in Egypt, Tunisia, and are attempting to do in Libya and Sudan. I've written a few posts about the future of Syria after Assad. Anyone can find them at threatwatchers.org
really enjoyed the read there on your website. Thanks!
 

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Yes, the faster we move and react and give the arab tribes reason to stand against PKK/YPG the faster we can get rid of the terrorist organization.
 

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Yes, just saw the post in the other thread :)

But we need to move fast and hard, we can only hope the populations pressure can make US leave the bases, but that will only happen if SNA gets to those areas and controls them.
 
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Mazloum Abdi's statements:

• Our forces are maintaining the ceasefire in Manbij.

• According to the initial agreement, no military forces should remain in Manbij.

• Turkish-backed militias must also comply with the ceasefire terms.

• We hope the ceasefire will be implemented practically starting tomorrow.

• We aim for the ceasefire in Manbij to become a general and comprehensive one.

• Our forces heroically defeated the militias in Qereqozax.

• These attacks are part of Turkey’s ongoing aggression and there is an international pressure on Turkey due to their aggression.

• If an attack occurs on Kobane, the historic resistance of Kobane will be repeated.

• The relocation of Suleyman Shah’s tomb is a sign of our positive intentions.

• In Deir ez-Zor, our primary objective has been the elimination of ISIS.

• We are not operating beyond our established boundaries in eastern Deir ez-Zor and the Euphrates region.

• We have an agreement in place regarding eastern and western Deir ez-Zor.

• At the outset of the incident, HTS informed us that our territories are not their target.

• We have agreements with HTS regarding Aleppo and Deir ez-Zor.

• Efforts are underway to send a delegation to Damascus for some negotiations.

• Before the end incidents, Russia was informed by Turkey that the HTS would carry out offensives.

• There are less obstacles in the path toward resolving the Syrian crisis.

• Representatives of all parties and groups must have a seat in the political process.

• We continue to protect and defend our territories under the current circumstances.

• Moving forward, we will strive to bring a political resolution to the forefront.

• Today, more than ever, there is a need for unity among the peoples.

• There is an opportunity to address the issues in occupied territories.

• Until now, the Autonomous Administration had not been included in resolving the Syrian crisis and this has been the most important cause of failure of those processes.

• The participation of the Autonomous Administration in the political process will lead to a solution.

• Turkish-backed groups cannot make independent decisions.

• We do not pose a threat to Turkey’s security.

• Turkey’s ultimate aim is to push us out of the political process by escalating its attacks.

• Outside of Turkish-backed groups, no one desires war.

• In Syria’s new phase, the Kurdish position must be unified.

• We hope the Kurdistan Regional Government will also adopt a stance supporting Kurdish unity.

• Turkey is attempting to continue its aggressive efforts.

• We remain open to dialogue with Turkey.

• Threats persist, and the people must stand with their defensive forces.

• With the support of our people, we will overcome the challenges of this phase.


Very strategic diplomatic talks for Western ears, but this is the tongue of a snake who wants to turn Syria into a federation (like Germany, Russia, Brazil, Switserland, USA) with autonomous states like a Alewite region, a Christian region, a Sunni region, a Druze region, a Kurdish region etc.

When they are in a federation, they can easily break theirselves away to form a independant state and be like a little Kuwait with guns and oil. But this time with massive militairy and financial support from both Israel and the US.

And in turn for that great support, they will turn into USA’s and Israel’s spy- and warmachine to sprey havok and chaos for the northern muslims (Turkey, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Kuwait, Syria,) so that Israel can deal with the southern muslims (Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, S.Arabia) when the War for Jerusalem starts.

Because that war is coming.
 

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westerns propaganda for PKK started

This comment actually gets it. But westerners in particular Americans and Germans are so high up their asses about it.

They think once Turkiye recognises Kurdistan every thing will end but instead they will demand not just Iraq and Syria's lands but also Turkiye.

Their delusions even reach Azerbaijan.

I know a lot of people are going to point Misaki Milli. Lets be honest here the Turkish nationalists led by Ataturk did not claim land from Vienna to the outskirts of Morocco.

Misaki Milli has always represented the Turkish core of the Turkish homeland. The Turks lived there for centuries under both Seljuk and Ottomans. Not to mention the map accepts Syrian Turkmens and Iraqi Turkmens.
 

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this comment actually gets it. But westerners in particular Americans and Germans are so high up their asses about it.

that is anti Turkism. its not a racism its even stronger then that its anti Turkism similar to anti-Semitism and they exported their ideology globally. here people dont understand the difference our people should reach this level of awareness and force the west to put anti-turkism same level as anti-semitism
 

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You guys may have already seen this, but first time I'm coming across this. From 2016 apparently.



2023 however:

It's nothing new. This is a widely known fact. US is using wordgames to arm and support kurdish separatist terrorists whose ultimate aim is to partition Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria to carve out a state for themselves. This means Sevres 2.0. Americans want any/all power centers that have the potential to threaten Israel to be smashed to pieces.

It doesn't matter how ridiculous their positions sound. Westerners operate on a different wavelength in which some people are not really people, their suffering doesn't really count. Turks are one of those people-but-not-really. This is why normie westerners are taking this "da currrds" propaganda hook line and sinker. Even if we demonstrate PKK atrocities, only suffering caused by it is to Turks, and Turks are not people according to westoids.
 
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This is why normie westerners are taking this "da currrds" propaganda hook line and sinker. Even if we demonstrate PKK atrocities, only suffering caused by it is to Turks, and Turks are not people according to westoids.
i think you are wrong on this. they dont give a 2 fuck about about da cuuurds they are supporting them because it hurt us if it was someone else the normies wouldn't be so eager like this. this is a result of anti-Turkism. the western identity build on twin pillar of anti Turkism and anti Semitism while after ww2 anti Semitism is addressed but the anti Turkism which is at same level dangerous as anti Semitism is not addressed.
 
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that is anti Turkism. its not a racism its even stronger then that its anti Turkism similar to anti-Semitism and they exported their ideology globally. here people dont understand the difference our people should reach this level of awareness and force the west to put anti-turkism same level as anti-semitism

So called Anti-Semitism serves geopolitical global ambitions of the anglo-american "globalist" empire. Most Zionists are "anglo-american" Christian fundamentalists, they subscribe to this ridiculous and massively debunked idea about "British Israelism" that the Anglo-Saxon peoples are actually the real Jews. "gods chosen peoples". These guys actually despise the Jews that we know as Jews today, but they have no qualms in using them. I'll even go as far to say that they are only outwardly Christian, their true god is the god of the lodge in which they are all members of. If you want to know what "God" that is, read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike. Interestingly enough that's the same God that the demon Dugin subscribes too while outwardly parading as an Orthodox Christian. They are all frauds, they are all deceivers. Marxism at its core is ultimately Satanism parading as atheism, but this is a topic for another day.

The entire international system we have today is set up by the Anglo-American sphere. Challenging them as we are doing in Syria is basically challenging a form of British empire on steroids. The reality is that there is no easy way out of this, its going to be massive and consistent struggle for Turks. Make no mistake that the Anglo-American PKK project is intended to dismantle Turkiye. To put this in context, i want the people living in Turkiye today to look at the faces of their friends, their loved ones and then imagine what has taken place in Gaza, Syria, Iraq and the potential that it could happen to them. That would be the eventual outcome for the nation should the american pkk project succeed.

We then have the problem that our rise runs counter to the geopolitical ambitions of pretty much everyone. Europe, Russia, China, the US, and others all lose from Turkish power rising. No one wants to see it except for Turks and those around the world who are sick of the current order and don't want to see it replaced with either another euro origin one, or the Marxist one. The Turks if they succeed will offer a 3rd way, a win win model.

In reality the Turkish base has to be the wider Turkic world, then its the Muslim world, Then 3rd party nations who have geopolitical advantage with being friendly with us. We can't win playing their propaganda games, but we can win if we are able to unite our peoples. Then what they say will be meaningless, it will have no sway or power over us.

Just look at Syria as an example of our position. USA, Russia, EU, Iran, Assad, Gulf states, PKK, pretty much every single actor is against us.

The most important thing is tribal unity, not in a failed middle eastern islamist sense where they all scream "nationalism" is bad. But in the traditional Turkic sense of complete and total unity when facing our external rivals. Yeah were going to have our differences, our arguments. But when it comes to something like the PKK or anything that wishes to harm the nation, we must be completely united against it. As long as Turks are united and even those who see themselves under the same umbrella as us, whatever demonic games the Americans/Russians or any other entity play can be countered.
 

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They are vouching for the Kurds they believe Kurds are Anti Islamic, anti Muslim and Anti Turkish.

Kurds are much more conservative and even more Islamist than your average Turk.

Still Westerners ignore because the Kurds are Anti Turkish which make them perfect proxies to be used against the Turks.

Lets not forget that the Treaty of Sevres and Woodrow Wilson the Piece of shit President of the USA promised the Kurds a state.

Plan largely failed because the Kurds were feudal and Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was able to claw back territory lost in Anatolia to the Allied powers or separatists like the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds.

Ottomans largely after ww1 surrendered to the Allies and to the Separatists that were ravaging Anatolia. They were out of the game and Sultan Vahdettin cared more about his survival and throne to even put up a fight. They mustered up a force of 7000 called the Caliphates army that even largely failed most of them easily deserted to the Turkish army.

This is the West in general constantly play the minorities card against the Republic of Turkiye.

They think Turkiye is oppressing ethnic and religious minorities. This is all just a ruse basically using them as proxies.
 

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They are vouching for the Kurds they believe Kurds are Anti Islamic, anti Muslim and Anti Turkish.

Kurds are much more conservative and even more Islamist than your average Turk.

Still Westerners ignore because the Kurds are Anti Turkish which make them perfect proxies to be used against the Turks.

Lets not forget that the Treaty of Sevres and Woodrow Wilson the Piece of shit President of the USA promised the Kurds a state.

Plan largely failed because the Kurds were feudal and Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was able to claw back territory lost in Anatolia to the Allied powers or separatists like the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds.

Ottomans largely after ww1 surrendered to the Allies and to the Separatists that were ravaging Anatolia. They were out of the game and Sultan Vahdettin cared more about his survival and throne to even put up a fight. They mustered up a force of 7000 called the Caliphates army that even largely failed most of them easily deserted to the Turkish army.

This is the West in general constantly play the minorities card against the Republic of Turkiye.

They think Turkiye is oppressing ethnic and religious minorities. This is all just a ruse basically using them as proxies.
Not all the kurds are as conservative as you might think
The majority of kurds in Turkey and Syria are sunni and those are the conservative ones. However, there are other factions that know nothing about religion, I assure you that

There is a reason why the US supports only the radical Kurdsih faction that only constitutes around a small sliver of the total kurdish population in Syria to rule over all of Syria's wealth and that is because they are one of the most morally degenrates fqers we have ever seen in Syria.

They ruled 30% of Syria for the last 10 years and most of Syrian wealth was in their hands during that period and yet, all regions are still living in poverty with the majority sunni Arab population getting exploited, raped, and even treated as inferior scum and this is why nationwide protests in PKK-held areas are emerging

The radical kurds are literally Assad 2.0 but more pro-Israel and pro-US and that is why the West led by Israel and the US are supporting them to rule Syria since it will be easy to control those degenerate plebs who hide under the guise of religion. Moreover, a lot of the top cadres of the SDF arent even Syrian in the first place

 
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Not all the kurds are as conservative as you might think
The majority of kurds in Turkey and Syria are sunni and those are the conservative ones. However, the kurdish Shia faction in Syria at the very least know nothing about religion, I assure you that

There is a reason why the US supports only the Shia Kurdsih faction that only constitutes around 2% of total Syrian population and around 30% of the total kurdish population in Syria to rule over all of Syria's wealth and that is because they are one of the most morally degenrates fqers we have ever seen in Syria.

They ruled 30% of Syria for the last 10 years and most of Syrian wealth was in their hands during that period and yet, all regions are still living in poverty with the majority sunni Arab population getting exploited, raped, and even treated as inferior scum and this is why nationwide protests in PKK-held areas are emerging

The Shia kurds are literally Assad 2.0 but more pro-Israel and pro-US and that is why the West led by Israel and the US are supporting them to rule Syria since it will be easy to control those degenerate plebs who hide under the guise of religion. Moreover, a lot of the top cadres of the SDF arent Syrian in the first place
I've never even heard of Shia kurds of Syria. If they constituted %30 I would have. That far south they should be all Sunnis belonging to Shafi school. You might be thinking about seculars maybe?
 

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I've never even heard of Shia kurds of Syria. If they constituted %30 I would have. That far south they should be all Sunnis belonging to Shafi school. You might be thinking about seculars maybe?
That was the info I got from a source long ago. Iam trying to find it atm
There are Shia kurds but they arent as prominent due to their low numbers. In fact, whether in Afrin, Kobani, or Qamishli, the majority were sunni kurds and the small % was shia. However, those small % were reportedly rich and had a say in the area; i-e, the big guy/tribal leader in the classroom. The same scenario with the Shia Alawaites back during their hayday

If you do have some other sources that provide more updated info, then do share it since my source is quite old afaik (who knows, it may even be fake)

UPDATE: still searching for my old source but from some ambiguous old messages in reddit, some claim that the Shia kurds are around 20% or even less of the total kurdish population in Syria. In other words, they are around 1.7% or less of the total syrian population (if we take the kurds as 9% of total syrian population). Although, do be aware that it is from reddit so I do question its authenticity.
In order to avoid misleading the members of this forum, I did alter the post, by removing the statistics, until I find the accurate data
 
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