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Brother the problem is not in the imam hatip. We are talking about a minister which was the Chief of Staff with over 40 years of experience as an officer in the Turkish Army. I can expect something like that by a pure politician but we are talking also about people that served in the TSK and don't have a shame. Imam hatip graduate or not when a man don't have honor we see things like these.
Oh I am aware of that. My point with the message would be to give those who preach ummah a doze of reality. It's not because I am an enemy of Imam Hatip, no contrary I think it's important to ensure that their fealty to Turkey is unwavering. Of course there are those who serve our country well even after going to imam hatip schools, I am sure there must be some.

18 months conscript duty, 12 month basic training and 6 months guard duty either on border or in Peace Spring Shield area and such. Those areas are not going to be given back to Assad anytime soon.

I'm sure reality check will make anyone wake up. We need to do that because we can't have these internal divisions, and as long as some can escape serving the country they'll always be able to create these internal divisions.

Look at Israel, everyone serve in the military, except the crippled and heavily religious people.
 

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Oh I am aware of that. My point with the message would be to give those who preach ummah a doze of reality. It's not because I am an enemy of Imam Hatip, no contrary I think it's important to ensure that their fealty to Turkey is unwavering. Of course there are those who serve our country well even after going to imam hatip schools, I am sure there must be some.

18 months conscript duty, 12 month basic training and 6 months guard duty either on border or in Peace Spring Shield area and such. Those areas are not going to be given back to Assad anytime soon.

I'm sure reality check will make anyone wake up. We need to do that because we can't have these internal divisions, and as long as some can escape serving the country they'll always be able to create these internal divisions.

Look at Israel, everyone serve in the military, except the crippled and heavily religious people.

Ultra Religious Jews dont serve the Israel army because they see it as a secular institution.

These even had a huge ass protest against army conscription.

Irony is that Ben Gurion who was secular gave the exemption as long as they keep it to themselves and not try to turn Israel into a religious state.

Also another side fears that having ultra orthodox Jews could turn the Israeli army into a Jewish army and others believe they could become fanatics with military training.
 

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Ultra Religious Jews dont serve the Israel army because they see it as a secular institution.

These even had a huge ass protest against army conscription.

Irony is that Ben Gurion who was secular gave the exemption as long as they keep it to themselves and not try to turn Israel into a religious state.

Also another side fears that having ultra orthodox Jews could turn the Israeli army into a Jewish army and others believe they could become fanatics with military training.
That's why basic training and guard duty to give them a doze of reality. Though with Israel I can understand their religious fanatics running rampant, just like a certain other country.
 

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Honestly I lost hope.

I might be some idiot from Australia whose opinion null and void since I dont live in Turkey.

But man the Turkish people have some patience to tolerate this stuff from traitorous politicians, to economic issues, the issue of terrorism along with millions of refugees along with external problems, embargoes and sanctions. Europe, Russia and the USA doing whatever they can to take Turkey down. Even working together.

God its like the early 1900s of the Ottoman Empire have came back to Turkiye.

This time Turkey has the industry to fight on.
Turkey has a long way to go when it comes to current trade and economy. But i have good hope for turkey. Cant wait for the next 10-20 years.🇹🇷🇹🇷
 

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TSK gives thermals to the FSA. Fsa clowns sell the thermals in a market. What a clown show.

What do these rebel losers even do??

Honestly without Turkey these guys cant even do jack shit.

We are giving these guys equipment to fight off assad, russia and the pkk they go and sell them on the markets or the black market.
 
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Then they have the nerve to cry that Turkey does nothing or they start protesting.

After that please Turkey come and save us.

For all the Muslims who said Turkey does not give weapons to help the oppressed.

This what happens we give weapons so these guys can fight back and not get killed like sheep. But they go ahead and sell their shit for money.

Its so fustrating 🤬
 

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All what I can tell you is this, ......
Dont ever forget who is giving you Nuclear technology
Russia is not providing nuclear technology, the basis of all these projects is the build-operate-transfer model. They are essentially building the nuclear powerplant (which is already contriversial for its location in a fairly earthquake prone area) in order to sell the energy to Turkey- which is already a high price . After the 15 year contract period, Turkey will still have to purchase the plant from Rosatom.........

You do realise that Western, or even Japanese companies didn't take the contract because of the immense environment costs and risks involved in building huge nuclear plants.

I can't find the sources now, but there's videos of the cement poured for the reactor building already showing cracks......i.e. its not being built properly.
 

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Russia is not providing nuclear technology, the basis of all these projects is the build-operate-transfer model. They are essentially building the nuclear powerplant (which is already contriversial for its location in a fairly earthquake prone area) in order to sell the energy to Turkey- which is already a high price . After the 15 year contract period, Turkey will still have to purchase the plant from Rosatom.........

You do realise that Western, or even Japanese companies didn't take the contract because of the immense environment costs and risks involved in building huge nuclear plants.

I can't find the sources now, but there's videos of the cement poured for the reactor building already showing cracks......i.e. its not being built properly.
Dear friend, you completely misunderstood me! I didnt mean the Akkuyu nuclear plant at all! What Iam talking about is the fact that Turkish scientists and Engineers are studying nuclear technology and science in Russian Universities. This is alone by itself a priceless treasure. Just imagine how many sacrifices (like what the French did to the Algerians), how many billions in R&D and how many years or decades it would take Turkey to obtain a decent workforce of nuclear scientists. What Russia did is giving you the thing that you want with literally many drawbacks being removed! What is even better is that some scientists actually graduated and are withing Turkey. Therefore, within the meager period of 3-5 years, Turkey has a, albeit small, workforce of nuclear scientists!



Since you talked about the Akkuyu nuclear plant, let me indulge you on some facts
First of all, it is perfectly normal for cracks to appear during the building phase of the nuclear power plant. It isnt desirable per say ofcourse; however, it is common. For example, look at the Korean built nuclear reactor for the UAE and the Belgian Nuclear reactor where cracks have been found that is estimated to have been originated 40 years ago during construction and have just been found
Cracks are normal phenomenon in such structures, and is observed even during the construction phase. Moreover, the turkish authorities did indicate that they already remade the whole coatings after the cracks have shown up; so i dont think such an argument is valid either way
You can review some sources if you like


Moreover, I would also like to point out that whatever Turkey gets from this nuclear power plant isnt TECHNOLOGY by any means but rather mainly EXPERTISE on how to operate and build nuclear power plants which is also beneficial per say
Russian energy giant did say that they employed Turkish contractors in nearly most of the stages of the building process of the Nuclear power plant; in addition to that, they promised to employ turkish nuclear engineers and scientists when the power plant is on
Other than this, Turkey will reduce the volatility of the lira in the international market by depending less on dollar bought crude energy sources which will aid in helping the lira in the further future. Ofcourse employments etc... will also be available when the plant is completed


Though it isnt all sunshine, as you did say, the Area is more prone to Earthquakes so while Rosatom and Turkish authorities promised to employ the highest safety standards possible, both ROSATOM and Turkish authorities dont like to talk about the project too much.... like they just say what is necessary and that is it. No more. So only the future will tell

This is my idea on the issue
Feel free to comment
Sorry for being way too long tbh
 
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IMO, all of these problems are happening because Turkey is growing
Sadly, embargoes are to reduce your progression
As for the economic side, I can understand Erdo's side, but I dont sympathise with it that much tbh
And do you think Russia wants a strong Turkey!? Have you forgotten that Turkey is the lid that prevents it from its goal to global dominance

Russia wants a weak Turkey so that whn the time is right, they can take it by force to open a path to the Med. SEA just like with Ukraine
USA wants a weak Turkey that is controlled by proxies from the USA to be used as cannon fodder when the time of war comes in order to cut the West's losses
EU wants a weak Turkey that will never rise to enroach on the "EUROPEAN MASTERRACE" Legacy that they have built for a 100 years and they dont want its external influence to wane to Turkey
Gulf doesnt want a strong Turkey that may form a new superpower and snatch the throne from the corrupt eternal rulers of black gold

What is even all fun, is that standing against all those ambitions is just one man.... ERDOGAN!
It is kinda funny how one man is pissing off nearly the whole world
The guy needs to leave for their ambitions to come to fruition
Anymore and a world war may erupt tbh, lol!

No one gives you power, a part of these problems are because Turkey is growing, but you would be hard pressed to find an era since the Turks arrived in Anatolia where problems were not created for us.

However most of our problems now are because of shit politics.

It was AK party who created the pkkistan peace process which legitimised the communist terrorists globally, it was ak party who dived head first into syria without taking into account all possibilities. Just think of all the sides they backed which ruined our relations and how nearly all of them lost. The MB was a massive failure for example that ruined all of Turkeys relations.

We need these incompetent fools gone. This is why i hate religion being used in politics, for the plebs it turns into a muslim vs non muslim thing, when it reality should be all about results either your winning or your losing and if your losing its time to go.

religion is used as a smokescreen by these incompetent thieves.
 

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Then they have the nerve to cry that Turkey does nothing or they start protesting.

After that please Turkey come and save us.

For all the Muslims who said Turkey does not give weapons to help the oppressed.

This what happens we give weapons so these guys can fight back and not get killed like sheep. But they go ahead and sell their shit for money.

Its so fustrating 🤬

Most of these middle eastern peoples can't fight modern wars.
 

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TSK gives thermals to the FSA. Fsa clowns sell the thermals in a market. What a clown show.

What do these rebel losers even do??

Honestly without Turkey these guys cant even do jack shit.

We are giving these guys equipment to fight off assad, russia and the pkk they go and sell them on the markets or the black market.
it should be possible to build such things like gps tracker and IDs for each thermal sight and sms sending of IDs to get who sold his thermal.. first you would see where the enemy is and bomb him.. and second you can send those rats to assad because they betrayed you..

since thermal sights are powerd by accu and a gps tracker is really small technically it could be done.. you can buy such a tracker and its not significantly bigger than a 1 euro coin
 
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One more soldier which was heavily injured in the last attack fell martyr in the hospital. His name is Infantry Enlisted Private Turgay ABACI. May Allah accept his martyrdom!
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