GoatsMilk
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cant find any reports on it.
If true time to do whats required. If the coward doesn't move, then another shame for the nation behaving so cowardly and weak.
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cant find any reports on it.
If true time to do whats required. If the coward doesn't move, then another shame for the nation behaving so cowardly and weak.
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Can't find much on it either but who knows.
If true then I'm guessing it's "revenge" for Turkey "violating" the grain agreement and letting Sweden in. In which case I humbly propose that Turkey make 3 times as many Russians in Syria pay with their lives in response.
I am expecting certain commenters to drop in immediately trying to shift blame from Russia to the US mind-controlling Putin or something.
If true then I'm guessing it's "revenge" for Turkey "violating" the grain agreement and letting Sweden in. In which case I humbly propose that Turkey make 3 times as many Russians in Syria pay with their lives in response.
I am expecting certain commenters to drop in immediately trying to shift blame from Russia to the US mind-controlling Putin or something.
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Its erdogans weakness that invites such trouble.
I would have hate to think what the Russians would have done to us had the idlib retaliation not came. When the Russians bombed Turkish troops, erdogan and his media was doing everything to hide it from the people. The Russians would have looked at that thinking we got this coward, we can keep screwing him and in fear he will run and hide, even tell people us russians are innocent. Thank to social media it created a boiling point atmosphere in Turkiye either it war or erdogan will be removed by the people. The operation was a day into it, where using a few drones the Turkish military was sweeping all our problems away, erdogan was already begging putin for a meeting. While Putin was pretending he was too busy to make erdogan sweat. Shameful stuff.
Its like the bully in the school yard, appease the f'er and he will become more and more hostile, you got to crack him hard in the face and be prepared to go all the way. You do that and the bully becomes your servant instead of your tormentor.
I can only think what someone like Ecevit could have achieved today instead of this poser.
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This is legit Turkish land recognized by international treaties. PKK/YPG invaded a part of our land. We are sinking to new lows. Thank you AKP finally this happened too, a terrorist organization invaded our land.
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Great, they got too cocky.
This is legit Turkish land recognized by international treaties. PKK/YPG invaded a part of our land. We are sinking to new lows. Thank you AKP finally this happened too, a terrorist organization invaded our land.
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What does this mean,they took our territory and we did nothing?
This is legit Turkish land recognized by international treaties. PKK/YPG invaded a part of our land. We are sinking to new lows. Thank you AKP finally this happened too, a terrorist organization invaded our land.
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Yes. This territory belongs to us similar to Istanbul or Ankara. This is literally our land.
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Caber Castle is not Turkish land AFAIK. After Tabqa Dam was built and the castle became an island on the Lake Assad in 70s, our exclave and the tomb was moved north.
This was the tomb and the Turkish exclave inside Syria, 80kms from Turkey, east of Manbij. After 2015, tomb was brought 200m near the border and the building was demolished. This location is currently also held by KCK.
This was the tomb and the Turkish exclave inside Syria, 80kms from Turkey, east of Manbij. After 2015, tomb was brought 200m near the border and the building was demolished. This location is currently also held by KCK.
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Both old and new tomb land is invaded by PKK so i don't understand what you are getting at. The treaty clearly states that the tomb and the land allocated to it are Turkish lands. Two governments agreeing to move the tomb slightly north to a new place due to dam doesn't change its status as a Turkish land. The Treaty of Ankara is crystal clear.Caber Castle is not Turkish land AFAIK. After Tabqa Dam was built and the castle became an island on the Lake Assad in 70s, our exclave and the tomb was moved north.
This was the tomb and the Turkish exclave inside Syria, 80kms from Turkey, east of Manbij. After 2015, tomb was brought 200m near the border and the building was demolished. This location is currently also held by KCK.
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What i'm getting at is that Caber Castle is not Turkish land. The second location is.
A natural consequence of turkmenifying these Arabs in the SNA is the Arabs now 'own', control and define Turkmen culture, diluting and destroying Turkmen presence in Syria in the process. This will happen and has been happening in Turkey too.
I mean this part:
"If you visit open source visual platforms, you will see many videos where people introduce themselves as Turkmen despite being Arabs, make the sign of the Grey Wolf, but the background music is Kurdistan Trap, and most of them are members of the SNA."
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What a bunch of bullcrap.
Sna is formed by Arabs because Arabs are the majority population of Syria.
Since Arabs and Turkmens are Sunnis it made sense for them to ally with each other against Assad.
Syrian Turkmens are not Arab or Arabised but the Assad regime tried many times to Arabise them or even turned them into Alawites.
Do the Syrian Turkmens follow Arab culture in a way yeah they do. They lived in Syria for centuries it makes sense to adopt from their neighbours.
A Syrian Turkmen state could have been built this is on Turkiye's failure in building one because they beated around the bush.
This what happens when people scared run foreign policy.
I think you misunderstood what I meant by Arabs claiming, owning and defining Turkmen identity.
The Assad regime showed Hatay as belonging to Syria on its earthquake maps.
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Exactly, it's literally a ticking bomb waiting to explode. Wonder what people that was supporting this madness will say when the time comes.
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They have choose:
1. Usa should used to it. It is Like always - usa are just saying on news it is "unprofessional and dangerous " every time.
It is shows that usa are afraid to retaliate. Usa should not be doing nothing, but they are doing exactly that.
russia see this "usa doing nothing" and become more and more brutally confident that is why russia keep doing it.
As we see it -> Usa did NOT answer to what happen over the Black Sea, so russia keeps doing it.
2.Get an answer to it. - It is intentionally hitting. It is rules of engagement you attack me I fighting back.
Usa should do something than talking. Why are those drones not carrying sidewinders? Which will be give a warning that the next drone that gets harassed will fire back?
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The American/Russian relationship is compartmentalised.
remember when it came to countering Turkiye in Syria they both moved in line completely. Al bab was a good example how both armies moved in complete unison to block Turkiye in. When we finally moved on western Syria the Americans handed over as many positions as possible to Russia. Manbij is a good example of how they both work together to keep the PKK alive. When it comes to the PKK they probably share the same office that overseas that terrorist organisation.
I see these drones stunts as no more then cheap tricks to keep Turks, Iranians, Assadists as well as PKK in believing that these nations at odds with each. In the middle east when it comes to 3rd nations, they are entirely allied together. From the white american/russian perspective the middle east is brown muslim people that should be dominated by the white man. But to do it as always with whites, they need to dived their enemies, to get keep them killing each other and when all is said and done they walk in and everyone gets tyranny and complete subjection.
The fools are either side who is relying on either the USA/Russia, away from the cameras these guys co-ordinate their strategy together.
Just like you should never pay attention to what politicians say, only what they do. Likewise when it comes to the middle east pay no attention to what any of these invaders are saying only what they are doing. What they say changes daily, what they do has remained consistent for much of the last 100 to 200 years in the region. The PKK for example has been continually supported by them all. When republicans come into power claiming that hate marxists/communists, they support the PKK no different then how the socialist democrats do.
