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You guys may have already seen this, but first time I'm coming across this. From 2016 apparently.



2023 however:

It's nothing new. This is a widely known fact. US is using wordgames to arm and support kurdish separatist terrorists whose ultimate aim is to partition Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria to carve out a state for themselves. This means Sevres 2.0. Americans want any/all power centers that have the potential to threaten Israel to be smashed to pieces.

It doesn't matter how ridiculous their positions sound. Westerners operate on a different wavelength in which some people are not really people, their suffering doesn't really count. Turks are one of those people-but-not-really. This is why normie westerners are taking this "da currrds" propaganda hook line and sinker. Even if we demonstrate PKK atrocities, only suffering caused by it is to Turks, and Turks are not people according to westoids.
 

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This is why normie westerners are taking this "da currrds" propaganda hook line and sinker. Even if we demonstrate PKK atrocities, only suffering caused by it is to Turks, and Turks are not people according to westoids.
i think you are wrong on this. they dont give a 2 fuck about about da cuuurds they are supporting them because it hurt us if it was someone else the normies wouldn't be so eager like this. this is a result of anti-Turkism. the western identity build on twin pillar of anti Turkism and anti Semitism while after ww2 anti Semitism is addressed but the anti Turkism which is at same level dangerous as anti Semitism is not addressed.
 
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that is anti Turkism. its not a racism its even stronger then that its anti Turkism similar to anti-Semitism and they exported their ideology globally. here people dont understand the difference our people should reach this level of awareness and force the west to put anti-turkism same level as anti-semitism

So called Anti-Semitism serves geopolitical global ambitions of the anglo-american "globalist" empire. Most Zionists are "anglo-american" Christian fundamentalists, they subscribe to this ridiculous and massively debunked idea about "British Israelism" that the Anglo-Saxon peoples are actually the real Jews. "gods chosen peoples". These guys actually despise the Jews that we know as Jews today, but they have no qualms in using them. I'll even go as far to say that they are only outwardly Christian, their true god is the god of the lodge in which they are all members of. If you want to know what "God" that is, read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike. Interestingly enough that's the same God that the demon Dugin subscribes too while outwardly parading as an Orthodox Christian. They are all frauds, they are all deceivers. Marxism at its core is ultimately Satanism parading as atheism, but this is a topic for another day.

The entire international system we have today is set up by the Anglo-American sphere. Challenging them as we are doing in Syria is basically challenging a form of British empire on steroids. The reality is that there is no easy way out of this, its going to be massive and consistent struggle for Turks. Make no mistake that the Anglo-American PKK project is intended to dismantle Turkiye. To put this in context, i want the people living in Turkiye today to look at the faces of their friends, their loved ones and then imagine what has taken place in Gaza, Syria, Iraq and the potential that it could happen to them. That would be the eventual outcome for the nation should the american pkk project succeed.

We then have the problem that our rise runs counter to the geopolitical ambitions of pretty much everyone. Europe, Russia, China, the US, and others all lose from Turkish power rising. No one wants to see it except for Turks and those around the world who are sick of the current order and don't want to see it replaced with either another euro origin one, or the Marxist one. The Turks if they succeed will offer a 3rd way, a win win model.

In reality the Turkish base has to be the wider Turkic world, then its the Muslim world, Then 3rd party nations who have geopolitical advantage with being friendly with us. We can't win playing their propaganda games, but we can win if we are able to unite our peoples. Then what they say will be meaningless, it will have no sway or power over us.

Just look at Syria as an example of our position. USA, Russia, EU, Iran, Assad, Gulf states, PKK, pretty much every single actor is against us.

The most important thing is tribal unity, not in a failed middle eastern islamist sense where they all scream "nationalism" is bad. But in the traditional Turkic sense of complete and total unity when facing our external rivals. Yeah were going to have our differences, our arguments. But when it comes to something like the PKK or anything that wishes to harm the nation, we must be completely united against it. As long as Turks are united and even those who see themselves under the same umbrella as us, whatever demonic games the Americans/Russians or any other entity play can be countered.
 

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They are vouching for the Kurds they believe Kurds are Anti Islamic, anti Muslim and Anti Turkish.

Kurds are much more conservative and even more Islamist than your average Turk.

Still Westerners ignore because the Kurds are Anti Turkish which make them perfect proxies to be used against the Turks.

Lets not forget that the Treaty of Sevres and Woodrow Wilson the Piece of shit President of the USA promised the Kurds a state.

Plan largely failed because the Kurds were feudal and Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was able to claw back territory lost in Anatolia to the Allied powers or separatists like the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds.

Ottomans largely after ww1 surrendered to the Allies and to the Separatists that were ravaging Anatolia. They were out of the game and Sultan Vahdettin cared more about his survival and throne to even put up a fight. They mustered up a force of 7000 called the Caliphates army that even largely failed most of them easily deserted to the Turkish army.

This is the West in general constantly play the minorities card against the Republic of Turkiye.

They think Turkiye is oppressing ethnic and religious minorities. This is all just a ruse basically using them as proxies.
 

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They are vouching for the Kurds they believe Kurds are Anti Islamic, anti Muslim and Anti Turkish.

Kurds are much more conservative and even more Islamist than your average Turk.

Still Westerners ignore because the Kurds are Anti Turkish which make them perfect proxies to be used against the Turks.

Lets not forget that the Treaty of Sevres and Woodrow Wilson the Piece of shit President of the USA promised the Kurds a state.

Plan largely failed because the Kurds were feudal and Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was able to claw back territory lost in Anatolia to the Allied powers or separatists like the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds.

Ottomans largely after ww1 surrendered to the Allies and to the Separatists that were ravaging Anatolia. They were out of the game and Sultan Vahdettin cared more about his survival and throne to even put up a fight. They mustered up a force of 7000 called the Caliphates army that even largely failed most of them easily deserted to the Turkish army.

This is the West in general constantly play the minorities card against the Republic of Turkiye.

They think Turkiye is oppressing ethnic and religious minorities. This is all just a ruse basically using them as proxies.
Not all the kurds are as conservative as you might think
The majority of kurds in Turkey and Syria are sunni and those are the conservative ones. However, there are other factions that know nothing about religion, I assure you that

There is a reason why the US supports only the radical Kurdsih faction that only constitutes around a small sliver of the total kurdish population in Syria to rule over all of Syria's wealth and that is because they are one of the most morally degenrates fqers we have ever seen in Syria.

They ruled 30% of Syria for the last 10 years and most of Syrian wealth was in their hands during that period and yet, all regions are still living in poverty with the majority sunni Arab population getting exploited, raped, and even treated as inferior scum and this is why nationwide protests in PKK-held areas are emerging

The radical kurds are literally Assad 2.0 but more pro-Israel and pro-US and that is why the West led by Israel and the US are supporting them to rule Syria since it will be easy to control those degenerate plebs who hide under the guise of religion. Moreover, a lot of the top cadres of the SDF arent even Syrian in the first place

 
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Not all the kurds are as conservative as you might think
The majority of kurds in Turkey and Syria are sunni and those are the conservative ones. However, the kurdish Shia faction in Syria at the very least know nothing about religion, I assure you that

There is a reason why the US supports only the Shia Kurdsih faction that only constitutes around 2% of total Syrian population and around 30% of the total kurdish population in Syria to rule over all of Syria's wealth and that is because they are one of the most morally degenrates fqers we have ever seen in Syria.

They ruled 30% of Syria for the last 10 years and most of Syrian wealth was in their hands during that period and yet, all regions are still living in poverty with the majority sunni Arab population getting exploited, raped, and even treated as inferior scum and this is why nationwide protests in PKK-held areas are emerging

The Shia kurds are literally Assad 2.0 but more pro-Israel and pro-US and that is why the West led by Israel and the US are supporting them to rule Syria since it will be easy to control those degenerate plebs who hide under the guise of religion. Moreover, a lot of the top cadres of the SDF arent Syrian in the first place
I've never even heard of Shia kurds of Syria. If they constituted %30 I would have. That far south they should be all Sunnis belonging to Shafi school. You might be thinking about seculars maybe?
 

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I've never even heard of Shia kurds of Syria. If they constituted %30 I would have. That far south they should be all Sunnis belonging to Shafi school. You might be thinking about seculars maybe?
That was the info I got from a source long ago. Iam trying to find it atm
There are Shia kurds but they arent as prominent due to their low numbers. In fact, whether in Afrin, Kobani, or Qamishli, the majority were sunni kurds and the small % was shia. However, those small % were reportedly rich and had a say in the area; i-e, the big guy/tribal leader in the classroom. The same scenario with the Shia Alawaites back during their hayday

If you do have some other sources that provide more updated info, then do share it since my source is quite old afaik (who knows, it may even be fake)

UPDATE: still searching for my old source but from some ambiguous old messages in reddit, some claim that the Shia kurds are around 20% or even less of the total kurdish population in Syria. In other words, they are around 1.7% or less of the total syrian population (if we take the kurds as 9% of total syrian population). Although, do be aware that it is from reddit so I do question its authenticity.
In order to avoid misleading the members of this forum, I did alter the post, by removing the statistics, until I find the accurate data
 
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Shia Kurds do exist AFAIK but they should be a negligible minority ala Torbesh in Turkey. Which means noone really knows or cares about them. That being said, Syria was an Alawite/Shia dominated caste society so who knows...
 

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Shia Kurds do exist AFAIK but they should be a negligible minority ala Torbesh in Turkey. Which means noone really knows or cares about them. That being said, Syria was an Alawite/Shia dominated caste society so who knows...
Shia Kurds exist in Iraq. They're called Feyli.
 

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