TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[UkroTurk]

IMHO just long range ballistic missiles are not enough.

Ukraine -Russia war shows that you can't destroy a bridge from MLRS.

We need also rockets with larger warheads and reduced rocket fuels.

İmagine as if 122mm,227mm and 300mm rockets were with doubled warheads. They would be totally destructive against buildings, bases, power plants, bridges etc...

Kinda Tochka-U which can deliver 500kg warhead but more precisely guided.


Air defense systems would be less effective against them.

They could be also launched from some aircrafts/fighters/bombers.

For instance 300mm Tiger Guided rocket's weight 660kg while warhead is 160kg . if the rocket were launched from aircraft, doubled 320kg warhead wouldnt reduce 100km range.

İt would be kinda IAI Rampage missile.



Recall that MGM-140 that Ukraine is begging can deliver up to 500kg warhead

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Okumuş: "The ramjet Gokhan BVR missile which will be used in both F16 and MMU will be superior to its counterparts"

Thanks Mr. Kaner Kurt

 

[I_Love_F16]

They said they will unveil the first prototype of Gokhan in 2022. Hope they will keep their promises.

 

[Baris]

Savunmasanayist writes "GEZGİN" and Anıl Şahin writes "SİNOP *wink*". They are doing the new trend but it's interesting to say the least. Maybe we'll see a test soon ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1565667655209607169

 

[Afif]

Mr Okumuş: "The ramjet Gokhan BVR missile which will be used in both F16 and MMU will be superior to its counterparts"

Thanks Mr. Kaner Kurt

Did he said when it will be unveiled?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Detail information about Kuzgun family and dates of their first firing trials

 

[Khagan1923]

Detail information about Kuzgun family and dates of their first firing trials

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Kuzgun-KY seems to have lost a lot of weight since the last official numbers. Before this it was at around 100kg per missile now we are under 75kg pushing it into Spike NLOS territory with longer range 25km vs 40km. (6th gen NLOS has 50km but not yet in production)

Could we possible see Kuzgun-KY equipped with an MMW Seeker used on ATAK-2 with MILDAR?

Or Land Vehicles equipped with 6-8 Kuzgun-KY picking off armored targets from 40km away?

Many possibilities await TSK the next few years. Kuzgun being only one of them.

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Kuzgun-KY seems to have lost a lot of weight since the last official numbers. Before this it was at around 100kg per missile now we are under 75kg pushing it into Spike NLOS territory with longer range 25km vs 40km. (6th gen NLOS has 50km but not yet in production)

Could we possible see Kuzgun-KY equipped with an MMW Seeker used on ATAK-2 with MILDAR?

Or Land Vehicles equipped with 6-8 Kuzgun-KY picking off armored targets from 40km away?

Many possibilities await TSK the next few years. Kuzgun being only one of them.

Formally, If your land vehicle doesn't have an altitude of 20000 feet and a speed of 0.2 mach at the time of firing the missile, unfortunately, it cannot be what you say.

 

[Siper>MMU]

Kuzgun KY is not an Spike NLOS counterpart, but maybe a Brimstone.

Spike NLOS has large wings to increase loiter time and gliding range. Also it has a slower burning rocket engine that pushes the missile to a long range with lower speed. Due to Kuzgun KYs small wings , its maneuvrability on slower speeds would be dramaticaly worse compared to Spike NLOS. For LOAL-target update-TOO like usages, a slower missile with longer loiter time is required.

 

[Radonsider]

Formally, If your vehicle doesn't have an altitude of 20000 feet and a speed of 0.2 mach at the time of firing the missile, unfortunately, it cannot be what you say.

It doesn't matter that much, you can implement it, will have less range yes but you will be able to use it

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

It doesn't matter that much, you can implement it, will have less range yes but you will be able to use it

While the Greeks have NLOS in Western Thrace, I don't have to send my soldiers a missile with a maximum range of 20 km.

 

[Radonsider]

While the Greeks have NLOS in Western Thrace, I don't have to send my soldiers a missile with a maximum range of 20 km.

NLOS and Kuzgun are different type.

You can't compare them

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

NLOS and Kuzgun are different type.

You can't compare them

That's why "its matter". Before that, we realize that the missile we discussed in the forum as a Nlos counterpart is not actually counterpart. We can "implement" but we don't have to, so I gave the example of Roketsan.

 

[Trakya_forever]

Kuzgun KY now is a kind of anti tank missile. It is a NLOS missile but doesnt have a loitering ability cause it is really fast when we compare to well-known anti tank missiles.

On the other hand, when I see lower than 60 minutes for TJ variant, a Delilah like missile came to my mind.

 

[Huelague]

Gezgin is already in inventory.

You are kidding us. Its not cool.

 

[Corvus]

Detail information about Kuzgun family and dates of their first firing trials

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What the heck is Anka2?

 

[Radonsider]

Kuzgun KY now is a kind of anti tank missile. It is a NLOS missile but doesnt have a loitering ability cause it is really fast when we compare to well-known anti tank missiles.

On the other hand, when I see lower than 60 minutes for TJ variant, a Delilah like missile came to my mind.

What the heck is Anka2?

Aksungur

 

[Combat-Master]

Kuzgun-KY will be equivalent of BRIMSTONE, so whatever BRIMSTONE is is what Kuzgun-KY is, a little taster of capability Kuzgun-KY will bring

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1566036131115827200

 

[Trakya_forever]

Mr.Okumus: Gokdogan missile firing test from land based system was carried out successfuly in July 2022.

 

[Radonsider]

Mr.Okumus: Gokdogan missile firing test from land based system was carried out successfuly in July 2022.

Gökdoğan NASAMS let's go!