TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Anmdt]

bunuda AKP'ye bağladın ya. helal olsun sana.
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You linked it to the AKP too. good luck to you.

He is partially right, the leak was neither done or cooperated by SSB, or MoD, or TAF.

 

[Zafer]

Both SSB and MoD directly report to Turkish President.

 

[Fighter_35]

bunuda AKP'ye bağladın ya. helal olsun sana.
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You linked it to the AKP too. good luck to you.

If you don't know how akp acts it is your problem ,not mine. We are talking here from a party that distributes questions to their closest so called journalists to ask !!
Yep mod ,tsk or SSB did not mention about it but some akp related journalist directly gets information of 561 km range and name of the missile and they wait for lunch !!
Yes, This was to get votes and it is done with this purpose, full stop.
And akp tried to get votes with a missile which is designed and produced by republican engineers not akp engineers!!
What akp did is to assign managers to tskgv companies especially after 2017 when tskgv has been given under presidency!! ,and as a result many engineers left these companies like ASELSAN engineers.
Engineers who work on these project do not announce or say anything about these projects since they are state secret,but to get votes akp announce with out thinking their secret status!!

 

[Fighter_35]

Both SSB and MoD directly report to Turkish President.

So what??
Turkish president or any one works in akp can publish such information??
We are a party state??
These are secret of state not a tool to get votes!!
These are our power in a bad situation. For known things anyone can take precautions but for unknown they may not have precautions and you use them!!
These kind of systems are even not used in wars !! not to reveal ,if the job can be done by other systems!!

 

[Osman]

Guys, do you really think that us and some eu countries do not know anything about our secret projects?

Of course they do. But you are right about akp. She is trying to get votes but will be unsuccessfull in this economic/political situation.

 

[Anmdt]

Both SSB and MoD directly report to Turkish President.

Yes but it wasn't coordinated by them, SSB who oversees the project, MoD and TAF who operates on the customer side, President is not sole authority of making decision on secrecy, but someone else related to "informatics" wanted to leak this partially for election materials and to gain an upper hand in the unbalance of the power emerging in the region. It was leaked by someone else i can tell by pinpointing. Both SSB and MoD made their points by telling " these are sensitive matters that shouldn't be dug further" indicating the missile exists, but they refuse to make comments on, only refering to "TR is on this path to gain strategical missile power".
The secret of who leaked this; See who prepares President's speeches and who manages his media appearance.

 

[Osman]

If you analyze the revealment process of tayfun you will see:

1) politicians: First disclosure happened in 30 august 2012 it was revealed via chp member of parliament adnan keskin (who was from nationalist/kemalist wing of the party), by prime minister erdoğan

2) media: both foreign (most probably fed by their intelligence or allied intelligence) and national media (mostly akp/mhp/vatan parti oriented) implied the existence of some ballistic missiles in their articles or news in different occasions during 2000s and 2010s.

3) social media: some twitter and youtube accounts owned by semi professional defence enthusiasts having access to close circles of the industry and very amateur ones which are owned by ultranationalists or akp fans

4) closed forums on turkish defence industry and military

5) retired generals

So this is a complicated process that we can not analyse taking into account one factor

I do not believe that these projects are being revealed without the consent of security bureacracy. It is not so easy

 

[NitricAcid]

What is this missile at the REPKON stand? Not Karaok but like scaled down OMTAS? Is a short-range missile in the SPIKE-SR caliber coming?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585946241485008896

Some Say This missile looks generic. What they really show is that they can produce the copper cone of the hollow orthography ?

 

[TheInsider]

What is this missile at the REPKON stand? Not Karaok but like scaled down OMTAS? Is a short-range missile in the SPIKE-SR caliber coming?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585946241485008896

Some Say This missile looks generic. What they really show is that they can produce the copper cone of the hollow orthography ?

The missile is generic. Repkon is showing that it can produce the copper cone of the anti-tank shaped charge.

 

[dBSPL]

Tübitak Sage GM, Okumuş left almost all questions about both the Gezgin very long range cruise missile and the Gökhan hypersonic A-A missile unanswered. Given the critical importance of both projects for Turkish defense capabilities, we understand that there is a great secrecy. What was answered was that both projects are ahead of schedule and very mature. It was also stated that a scramjet version of the Gökhan is also targeted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585878157353164801

 

[Afif]

Tübitak Sage GM, Okumuş left almost all questions about both the Gezgin very long range cruise missile and the Gökhan hypersonic A-A missile unanswered. Given the critical importance of both projects for Turkish defense capabilities, we understand that there is a great secrecy. What was answered was that both projects are ahead of schedule and very mature. It was also stated that a scramjet version of the Gökhan is also targeted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585878157353164801

Scramjet version of gokhan ?!

 

[Cabatli_TR]

With scramjet engine project and the study of the metallurgical technologies to be used in these missile and reality that we are at a very advanced stage in Ramjet missile technologies, we can safely say that Turkiye has now started to catch up with world's most advanced countries in most advanced missile technology.

Okumuş also talked about engaging in air defense systems at hypersonic speeds. Thus, with these hypersonic propulsion systems, we can evaluate that not only A/A but also A/G or anti-ship missiles are on the agenda.

 

[Osman]

What i undestood from interview the scramjet project is not mature and it is an agm or ssm project. He just made a speculation on the use of scramjet in aam (or sam) applications. He said maybe in the future we will see

 

[Yasar_TR]

Gökhan is an air to air missile with a ramjet engine. It is a high supersonic speed missile. Ramjets can’t go above 5 Mach as their fuel usage becomes prohibitively high after Mach 4.5.
Ramjet has subsonic air speeds inside the engine. If you increase the flow of air inside the engine to supersonic speeds, via configuring the geometry of the engine and compressing the air input, then you get Supersonic Combustion Ramjet = Scramjet. This engine can fly your missiles at Mach 5+ speeds. (Hypersonic Speeds)

Gokhan ignition testing (well over 100) is at a mature stage where we are probably not too far from a fully working missile.
Beauty of the missile having a liquid gel fuel means that it can lead to the development of a larger anti ship missile. That means we are also envisaging an anti ship missile version of this. That is the logical outcome.

 

[dBSPL]

"ASSAV Defense exhibited a smart ammunition named PGB-128 at SAHAEXPO. This is an ammunition developing by Serbian EDePro. Maybe they are planning joint production"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585992382176460800

 

[Boz]

President Erdogan:
"When the TAYFUN missiles started to be fired, what did the greeks start to do? It was immediately on the agenda on television broadcasts.

Just wait, {this just the beginning,} the others is yet to come."

 

[Trakya_forever]

We will see some more before elections then Maybe anti-ship variant.
Or Tayfun is a derivative. We will see the real product (Tufan).

 

[dBSPL]

President Erdogan:
"When the TAYFUN missiles started to be fired, what did the greeks start to do? It was immediately on the agenda on television broadcasts.

Just wait, {this just the beginning,} the others is yet to come."
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Something big is coming. I feel it.

 

[Combat-Master]

Fuze for Roketsan-Aselsan Kamikaze Drone - RIHAM-C - Name denotes likely use of Cirit Warhead.
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Cirit 3kg Tri-Mode Warhead
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RIHAM-C

 

[TheInsider]