TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Saithan]

Well there are variants that can be launched from a 40mm and has a range of 1000m, so I think it could definite be handy, imo using them as point defence of camps and such are another aspect that makes it attractive. Unless smart munitions and 30-35mm are picked for that purpose.

 

[Oublious]

How many air to air missiles will be delivered? We have aging AMRAAM, we buyed 145 C7 but what is the total stock on AAM? In a case of war against Greece we will burn that 145 in a week.

 

[Anmdt]

ROKETSAN METE
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Hope it won't meet the fate of Cirit and fulfill its potential.
They have managed to fit a SAL on 40mm rocket, this matters a lot.

 

[Khagan1923]

Hope it won't meet the fate of Cirit and fulfill its potential.
They have managed to fit a SAL on 40mm rocket, this matters a lot.

When I see what BAE Systems is doing with the APKWS it makes me sad how ignored Cirit is.

 

[Huelague]

Is our Mach 5 A2A missile ready?

 

[Afif]

Is our Mach 5 A2A missile ready?

mach 5?
Hypersonic weapon development for now at the conceptual level afaik.

 

[Yasar]

Is our Mach 5 A2A missile ready?

There is no Mach-5 a2a development information that has been released by our SSB.
As far as a2a missiles go, one of the fastest ones in development is the AIM-260 JATM which will most probably use a dual pulse rocket engine to propel the missile to the expected speed of 5 Mach. It needs this high speed to achieve the very long range it is designed to do.
Meteor comes close to 4.5 Mach.. Our Gökhan missile will probably be the same. Also please note that ramjets aren’t very efficient on fuel at Mach 5.

a2a missiles are very agile and high manoeuvring missiles. Every time a missile manoeuvres, it loses momentum and speed. To maintain high Mach speeds that are faster than the target is the main aim of these missiles. Being throttleable allows Meteor to achieve the long distances and the high no escape zone value it is well known for.
As Gokhan will be of the same ilk, the high speeds at the mid term flight is not such a prerequisite. Important point is to preserve high potential momentum and speed for the terminal phase.

 

[Huelague]

There is no Mach-5 a2a development information that has been released by our SSB.
As far as a2a missiles go, one of the fastest ones in development is the AIM-260 JATM which will most probably use a dual pulse rocket engine to propel the missile to the expected speed of 5 Mach. It needs this high speed to achieve the very long range it is designed to do.
Meteor comes close to 4.5 Mach.. Our Gökhan missile will probably be the same. Also please note that ramjets aren’t very efficient on fuel at Mach 5.

a2a missiles are very agile and high manoeuvring missiles. Every time a missile manoeuvres, it loses momentum and speed. To maintain high Mach speeds that are faster than the target is the main aim of these missiles. Being throttleable allows Meteor to achieve the long distances and the high no escape zone value it is well known for.
As Gokhan will be of the same ilk, the high speeds at the mid term flight is not such a prerequisite. Important point is to preserve high potential momentum and speed for the terminal phase.

Than, the ex general leaks something wrong

 

[Afif]

Than, the ex general leaks something wrong

Please summarize it for non Turks.

 

[Baryshx]

Than, the ex general leaks something wrong

First of all, he is not a general. The level in Turkiye is very low. We need to get rid of the old and pave the way for the young as soon as possible.

I mean in general, not specific to this person. I'm not even counting the people who appear on TV.

 

[Yasar]

Than, the ex general leaks something wrong

I don’t want to waste time on a 40 minute tvshow to find what this guy says. (You should have given a specific time slot to watch.)

It doesn’t really matter what he says. SSB is the official mouthpiece for defence industry and as far as I know there hasn’t been an announcement about a 5mach a2a missile development being done by Tubitak or Roketsan.
5mach speed is not an efficient speed for a ramjet. (That is why AIM120-JATM is to have a dual pulse engine - to carry it beyond 5 Mach to achieve the long range it aspires) . It is possible to reach that speed with a ramjet. But due to extremely high fuel usage it is not feasible. It is however the domain of scramjets to have this sort of speed and more. Although there is work being done on scramjet engines by Tubitak, I don’t think it is for an a2a missile.

 

[Huelague]

I don’t want to waste time on a 40 minute tvshow to find what this guy says. (You should have given a specific time slot to watch.)

It doesn’t really matter what he says. SSB is the official mouthpiece for defence industry and as far as I know there hasn’t been an announcement about a 5mach a2a missile development being done by Tubitak or Roketsan.
5mach speed is not an efficient speed for a ramjet. (That is why AIM120-JATM is to have a dual pulse engine - to carry it beyond 5 Mach to achieve the long range it aspires) . It is possible to reach that speed with a ramjet. But due to extremely high fuel usage it is not feasible. It is however the domain of scramjets to have this sort of speed and more. Although there is work being done on scramjet engines by Tubitak, I don’t think it is for an a2a missile.

6:40 -6:50 min.

 

[Huelague]

Please summarize it for non Turks.

In short, he mentioned a Mach 5 a2a missile, which we have developed.

 

[Yasar]

In short, he mentioned a Mach 5 a2a missile, which we have developed.

If you listen to him carefully he is saying
“now look, this is a cruise missile”
Not an a2a missile. But a cruise missile.
Besides, what they are discussing is the opening of the internal weapon bay doors of the TFX, over a very old computer generated animation mock up.
You can’t really take that seriously.
I still stand by what I have written on my post #4851.

Just to add; fire a trg230 type missile from that plane at 40000ft whilst flying at 1.3 Mach, that trg230 may possibly hit 5mach and more at apogee.

 

[zio]

Does our gökdoğan missile have aesa tech seeker?

 

[zio]

trg 230

 

[YeşilVatan]

VAMPIRE™

L3Harris’ Vehicle-Agnostic Modular Palletized ISR Rocket Equipment (VAMPIRE) is a portable kit that can be installed on most vehicles with a cargo bed for launching of the advanced precision kill weapons system (APKWS) or other laser-guided munitions

www.l3harris.com

We have to make something like this happen with Roketsan Mete.

 

[Oublious]

VAMPIRE™

L3Harris’ Vehicle-Agnostic Modular Palletized ISR Rocket Equipment (VAMPIRE) is a portable kit that can be installed on most vehicles with a cargo bed for launching of the advanced precision kill weapons system (APKWS) or other laser-guided munitions

www.l3harris.com

We have to make something like this happen with Roketsan Mete.

waste of money, why would you put it on a pickup? I can understand on a vehicle like Kirpi.

 

[Heartbang]

waste of money, why would you put it on a pickup? I can understand on a vehicle like Kirpi.

Its a kit to use on your garden variety pick-up truck. Works on a pinch. Ez way to make a technical.

 

[Combat-Master]

Does anyone know if Turkey has ordered TRG-230 missiles ?