TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[TheInsider]

Missile experts! What are we seeing here?

Nothing we haven't mentioned before. Those guys in the video are attaching a heat shield to the conical warhead. Warhead has stage separation which means at some point in its flight warhead separates from the main body. Warhead has control surfaces which means the warhead has advanced guidance and makes maneuvers in the terminal phase. Old messages about Cenk are really close to the real thing.

 

[Trakya_forever]

Lol, so what do you want?!!!!!!

A machine gun on the missile. Innovative technology. "Taramalı bombe" in Turkish.

 

[TheInsider]

I think the diameter of the missile is around 900mm and it looks considerably longer than Tayfun.

A cylinder with a diameter of 600mm and 1m length has a volume of 0.2827 cubic meters
A cylinder with a diameter of 900mm and 1.5m length (%50 increase, it might be %30 or %60) has a volume of 0.9542 cubic meters.
Thus we can deduce the weight of the Cenk. It should be around 7.5-8.5 tonnes. This should be a ~2500km missile.

If the length stays the same it should weigh 5.5-5.75 tonnes. This should be a ~1500km missile.

 

[TheInsider]

BTW i expect different payloads to emerge as time passes. HGV and MIRV warheads will probably be developed.

 

[dBSPL]

What I'm really curious about is the apogee point on the missile's trajectory. But I think the real threat posed by CENK is not the maximum flight range, but the cruise missile type control system.

To some extent, as we have seen with the recent Iskander variants in our northern neighbour, we start to showing that we have similar capability(or can be reach in short term) in the theatre ballistic missile arsenal.

 

[Baryshx]

I think the diameter of the missile is around 900mm and it looks considerably longer than Tayfun.

A cylinder with a diameter of 600mm and 1m length has a volume of 0.2827 cubic meters
A cylinder with a diameter of 900mm and 1.5m length (%50 increase, it might be %30 or %60) has a volume of 0.9542 cubic meters.
Thus we can deduce the weight of the Cenk. It should be around 7.5-8.5 tonnes. This should be a ~2500km missile.

If the length stays the same it should weigh 5.5-5.75 tonnes. This should be a ~1500km missile.

I think it's between 1000-1500km.

 

[Oublious]

I think i have found a new hobby...

Could somebody show us what the possibilities is on googlemaps...

 

[AmirIGM]

Any ideas (maybe based on knowledge of existing Turkish missile tech) on the materials used in this CENK missile? The missile's range would vary greatly if the motor casing (or even the outer shell) was made of carbon composite instead of more traditional materials like steel.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Any ideas (maybe based on knowledge of existing Turkish missile tech) on the materials used in this CENK missile? The missile's range would vary greatly if the motor casing (or even the outer shell) was made of carbon composite instead of more traditional materials like steel.

If I remember corrrectly, It has been around 5/6 years since Roketsan introduced composite motor casing technology to the public so all new generation Turkish ballistic missiles and 1,35m diameter Şimsek SLV are produced/will be produced with composite technology...

 

[AmirIGM]

If I remember corrrectly, It has been around 5/6 years since Roketsan introduced composite motor casing technology to the public so all new generation Turkish ballistic missiles and 1,35m diameter Şimsek SLV are produced/will be produced with composite technology...

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Impressive. If these technologies are applied to CENK then you probably have a quite high performance missile in the 1000-1500km range class.

 

[TheInsider]

One of the technologies used in Cenk

Another one

Another one regarding fuel

https://portal.turkpatent.gov.tr/anonim/arastirma/patent/sonuc/dosya?patentAppNo=2022/011033&documentsTpye=all

Another one is about ablative material for the engine.

https://portal.turkpatent.gov.tr/anonim/arastirma/patent/sonuc/dosya?patentAppNo=2021/006419&documentsTpye=all

I see people comparing it to DF-12A. Cenk is a state-of-the-art, cutting-edge missile.

It is not based on a sounding rocket or based on DF-12A as İbrahim Sünnetçi suspects.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

KGK83

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658535856100069376

 

[Anmdt]

KGK83

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658535856100069376

SAGE has a fetish with flags of the target zones.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658885537745207316

Roketsan General Manager Murat İkinci, "The tests of the IIR seeker version of the MAM-L continue. It's going very fast, we don't have any problems."

 

[Kaan Azman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658888736086556689

LEVENT gonna be test fired this year,lets throw a party

I am sure MAM-L IIR will use the seeker from UMTAS IIR but will have a new guidance software

 

[fushkee]

If things go right. We'll have two CADM systems such as Levent and Gökdeniz-ER. It'd better use one system instead of two so we can use sources for another systems to develop.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Akbaba, Gezgin and Gokhan (I think Akbaba's designs are representative. Akbaba will be ramjet powered)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659108753000615937

 

[Yasar_TR]

F-16 ÖZGÜR'den ATMACA ve GEZGİN Füzesi atılabilecek

GEZGİN Seyir Füzesi ve ATMACA Gemisavar Füzesi, havadan da atılabilecek. Bu füzeleri taşıyacak hava platformlarından bir tanesi de F-16 ÖZGÜR olacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Good news about using more of our indigenously produced weapons on our air platforms. But it is becoming very tiresome to read a lot of will, shall, going tos.
The last two paragraphs of the above article is most disheartening.
Here we are, anxiously waiting to hear about Murad Radar being fitted on F16s and performing well. But instead the news piece is telling us that they are
”expecting to integrate the radar whose development work is still being carried on. “
All those indigenously produced weapons are going to be wasted on that Ozgur plane if the Murad Radar is not integrated and operating at the same time.
Either the news is old or it is there to fill a space. This is not good news management. Sorry Savunmasanayist! If you are being fed this by authorities; then question it.
Bring us preferably positive, current and valid news please!
At this stage of the game we have no patience for will, shall, going to s.

 

[Heartbang]

So, Gezgin is less like the Tomahawk, and more like the JASSM?

If its as stealth as the JASSM, I see that as an absolute win.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Gezgin cruise missile introduced in image seems more compact and IIR guided and lack of boosters compared to the land variant long range cruise missiles like Tomahawk. This missile must be Air launcher variant of the Gezgin since the matter is about F16 and the munition to be launched from this aircraft