TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

@Cabatli_53 , @Nutuk bros?

It must be photoshoped Russian Kalibr bro.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Today, TCG Gür submarine will fire Akya heavy class indigenous torpedo with active warhead.

Mr Ibrahim SUNNETÇİ

 

[Nutuk]

Hope it hits a Greek frigate who makes the stupidity to enter a navtex area.

 

[CAN_TR]

With ATMACA probably the most important weapon our Navy needs, big news, great milestone for the Defence Industry.

Btw, are there any specs revealed for AKYA?

 

[Ghost soldier]

With ATMACA probably the most important weapon our Navy needs, big news, great milestone for the Defence Industry.

Btw, are there any specs revealed for AKYA?

Of the technical specifications:

Length: 7 m

Diameter: 533 mm

Weight: 1.2 tons

Propulsion system: electric

Battery: It is estimated that Silver Oxide-Zinc batteries are used

Range: 15 km

Top speed: 40 nautical miles / hr

Propulsion system: Two propellers rotate in the opposite direction in one axis

Instructions: Launch and forget an active / passive acoustic sonar

Warhead weight: expected to be between 350-380 kg

Target: dual-purpose (surface / subsurface)

 

[Tornadoss]

Of the technical specifications:

Length: 7 m

Diameter: 533 mm

Weight: 1.2 tons

Propulsion system: electric

Battery: It is estimated that Silver Oxide-Zinc batteries are used

Range: 15 km

Top speed: 40 nautical miles / hr

Propulsion system: Two propellers rotate in the opposite direction in one axis

Instructions: Launch and forget an active / passive acoustic sonar

Warhead weight: expected to be between 350-380 kg

Target: dual-purpose (surface / subsurface)

Isn't 15 KMs a little bit small well these might be range on paper but according to wiki DM2A4, F21 have a range of 50 KMs.

 

[Ghost soldier]

Isn't 15 KMs a little bit small well these might be range on paper but according to wiki DM2A4, F21 have a range of 50 KMs.

Sometimes specs mentioned on websites or articles etc are not accurate but only hypothetical since range in reality remains classified so either this info is only for the public or the range does not matter
Here's original source for specs (in turkish) :

AKYA Ağır Torpido

AKYA Ağır Torpido

www.millisavunma.com

 

[Oublious]

Isn't 15 KMs a little bit small well these might be range on paper but according to wiki DM2A4, F21 have a range of 50 KMs.

I think the 15 km range is with max speed, so what the range will be with low speed maybe 50 km+.

 

[AzeriTank]

I think the 15 km range is with max speed, so what the range will be with low speed maybe 50 km+.

Also, Turkey want to use Hydrogen technology in these torpedos which will make the range double or triple.. saying electrical there able also mean Hydrogen..

 

[Ruhnama]

Are the som has anti ship capability or has any plan to make som like NSM missile can launched from ship with vls or own launcher?

 

[AzeriTank]

Are the som has anti ship capability or has any plan to make som like NSM missile can launched from ship with vls or own launcher?

if Atmaca able to fly super low why do you need longer wings? those are good to fly terrain hug on the ground as going on top of hills and mountains, or between them it needs good maneuvers, with Atmaca its different, its just goes on top of the water.. but it is able to use against ships too..

 

[Oublious]

Are the som has anti ship capability or has any plan to make som like NSM missile can launched from ship with vls or own launcher?

Yes, ther will be SOM anti ship version for the airforce, SOM C1/C2.

 

[guest12]

Yes, ther will be SOM anti ship version for the airforce, SOM C1/C2.

Also Som-J designed primarily for anti-ship role.

 

[Anmdt]

Of the technical specifications:

Length: 7 m

Diameter: 533 mm

Weight: 1.2 tons

Propulsion system: electric

Battery: It is estimated that Silver Oxide-Zinc batteries are used

Range: 15 km

Top speed: 40 nautical miles / hr

Propulsion system: Two propellers rotate in the opposite direction in one axis

Instructions: Launch and forget an active / passive acoustic sonar

Warhead weight: expected to be between 350-380 kg

Target: dual-purpose (surface / subsurface)

I think the 15 km range is with max speed, so what the range will be with low speed maybe 50 km+.

Isn't 15 KMs a little bit small well these might be range on paper but according to wiki DM2A4, F21 have a range of 50 KMs.

15 km in which speed, mode?
In wake homing 15-20 km can be considered decent due to zig-zag pattern
Also, 15 km was only a test value of a prototype, in fact not even a prototype but maybe a technology demonstator which propulsion, propeller, hull form, noise, guidance etc was proven, meant to measure several variables.

Are the som has anti ship capability or has any plan to make som like NSM missile can launched from ship with vls or own launcher?

SOM -Air launched
Atmaca -Surface launched
Gezgin- Surface+Air launched (just guessing)

 

[Zafer]

15 km in which speed, mode?
In wake homing 15-20 km can be considered decent due to zig-zag pattern
Also, 15 km was only a test value of a prototype, in fact not even a prototype but maybe a technology demonstator which propulsion, propeller, hull form, noise, guidance etc was proven, meant to measure several variables.

SOM -Air launched
Atmaca -Surface launched
Gezgin- Surface+Air launched (just guessing)

Gezgin > Submarine launched (?)

 

[Combat-Master]

Gezgin > Submarine launched (?)

Atmaca BLK2 will be sub launched, I don't see why same know-how wouldn't be implemented with Gezgin.. unless Gezgin is too wide..

 

[Turko]

Let's compare Atmaca and Gezgin equivalents. Harpoon has 4,6m length , 34cm diameter and 691kg whereas Tomahawk has 6.25m length, 52cm diameter and 1600kg weight dimensions. Torpedo tube of U212 submarines has 533mm diameter.IMO it is unlikely to launch Gezgin from u212.

In order to launch from a sub, Gezgin would need a capsule which would make it wider.

Harpoon capsule

Tomahawk capsule

 

[Anmdt]

Gezgin > Submarine launched (?)

I have also excluded sub-atmaca , thus the sub-gezgin. I think those projects will be related.

 

[Zafer]

Atmaca BLK2 will be sub launched, I don't see why same know-how wouldn't be implemented with Gezgin.. unless Gezgin is too wide..

They should strap tubes to the outside of the hull of submarines to overcome all size limitations.

 

[chngr]

Let's compare Atmaca and Gezgin equivalents. Harpoon has 4,6m length , 34cm diameter and 691kg whereas Tomahawk has 6.25m length, 52cm diameter and 1600kg weight dimensions. Torpedo tube of U212 submarines has 533mm diameter.IMO it is unlikely to launch Gezgin from u212.

In order to launch from a sub, Gezgin would need a capsule which would make it wider.
View attachment 12438
Harpoon capsule
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Tomahawk capsule
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Tomahawk can launch from 533mm capsule.

Royal Navy use 533mm capsulle for tomahawk in Trafalgar and Astute submarines

Scalp Naval (McDN) also use 533mm capsule

There will be no air-launched Gezgin

Gezgin too big for F-16's weapon station capacity...And too long for fighter jet

We just need something like JASSM-ER...1000kg, shorter length.