TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Philip the Arab]

Carrier drone + designation drone combo.

I like the designation part but I prefer ground launched munitions for that I think the concept is a lot more economical.

 

[Combat-Master]

Laser designator range of Aselsan CATS is 30km. This is the max range a single drone can guide a laser guided munition against a target as long as an external source don't illuminate the target, so Tubitak SAGE's Kuzgun will join to the game for ranges beyond 30km.

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Kuzgun is even in the same weight range as MAM-T @ 100kg

 

[Siper>MMU]

An IIR seeker with datalink would be more usefull. But actually when a UAV need to be out range of enemy, its enemy would be probably a air defence system. Most air defence systems are stationary when used, except Tor. So GPS/INS is enough for dealing with air defence systems. After destroying enemy AD systems there is no need for staying out of range. So laser designator range is not much necessary

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Kuzgun is even in the same weight range as MAM-T @ 100kg
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+Land/naval and air launched variants
+Solid propellant and glide bomb variants
+IIR seeker and GPS/INS variants
+Swarm capability fire forget/update missiles

 

[Anmdt]

+Land/naval and air launched variants
+Solid propellant and glide bomb variants
+IIR seeker and GPS/INS variants
+Swarm capability fire forget/update missiles

How about a turbo-jet variant? any possibilities?

 

[Bogeyman]

 

[dustdevil]

MAM-T versus more sophisticated versions of Miniature Bomb (SDB) and Kuzgun...

MAM-T could be the second best weapon (which is sometimes more effective if enemy concentrates on preventing the first best)... the front and aft section looks like they are from MAM-L, sensor probably same with MAM-L, no folding wings.. it’s an enlarged MAM-L.. cheaper and easy to produce in mass numbers.

I’d like to see low cost cameras as sensors and AI target search & acquisition...

 

[Philip the Arab]

I’d like to see low cost cameras as sensors and AI target search & acquisition...

Can UCAVs use TV guided missiles? I was under the impression TV sensors are cheap and simple tech.

You can guide a missile very accurately as well using TV guidance.

I think UAE is developing a similar concept although a very small TV sensor 300 grams on a small missile but in theory you may be able to achieve costs cheaper than laser seekers using COTS CCD sensors.

 

[dustdevil]

Can UCAVs use TV guided missiles? I was under the impression TV sensors are cheap and simple tech.

You can guide a missile very accurately as well using TV guidance.

I think UAE is developing a similar concept although a very small TV sensor 300 grams on a small missile but in theory you may be able to achieve costs cheaper than laser seekers using COTS sensors.

I think yes, and with recent AI/ML work even a cheap Raspberry Pi or Nvidia Jetson Nano can find and identify a target...especially ships would be the easiest.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

How about a turbo-jet variant? any possibilities?

I checked early mock ups and I realised that there is an air intake opening at a variant. Most likely, It will be turbojet powered variant of Kuzgun.

 

[Philip the Arab]

I checked early muck ups and I realised that there is an air intake opening at a variant. Most likely, It will be turbojet powered variant of Kuzgun.

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Should be quite easy, it doesn't need much thrust just 0.4-0.5kn. Although not sure how economical that is.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

MaM-T is a big munition. Bulky section must be warhead.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385284459180797958

 

[Hexciter]

+Land/naval and air launched variants
+Solid propellant and glide bomb variants
+IIR seeker and GPS/INS variants
+Swarm capability fire forget/update missiles

Air intakes were present while they’re introduced bro

 

[Hexciter]

Should be quite easy, it doesn't need much thrust just 0.4-0.5kn. Although not sure how economical that is.

Spear 3 and MALD uses such an engine already.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Spear 3 and MALD uses such an engine already.

How much cost does it add?

 

[Alpagu]

NEW AMMUNITION FOR UAVs: MAM-T
MAM-T has been developed to meet the need for higher warhead efficiency and longer range.
Will reach a range of over 30 kilometers from SİHAs
ROKETSAN will make the first delivery in 2021

 

[Hexciter]

How much cost does it add?

No idea!
But MALD uses Hamilton Sundstrand TJ-150 turbojet.

 

[Philip the Arab]

No idea!
But MALD uses Hamilton Sundstrand TJ-150 turbojet.

MALD and JSOW-ER use the same engine even though it is quite weak for the JSOW-ER it somehow works oddly enough.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385284459180797958

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385286312320720896

Slow-Mo.