TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Huelague]

That looks like Pi to me, my calculations show 1.26 k m² which is still big enough for a 2000 lb drop.

A = π • r²
r = 1 km² (radius of destruction, as estimated)
π ~3,142
A = 3,142 • 1 (km²)
A = 3,142 km² (destruction zone)
Still.

 

[Radko]

As it is, it quite literally cannot.

Idk, tell that to the ones in Roketsan. That's what I heard in IDEF day 2

 

[Yasar_TR]

Idk, tell that to the ones in Roketsan. That's what I heard in IDEF day 2

As I said before; If there is a will there is a way.
P&W PT6A-60 engine develops 1050HP.
P&W PT6A-52 engine develops 850HP.
When used on below aircraft, the 850HP engine gives 1700kg useful load capacity.
When used on the same plane, the 1050HP engine gives a useful load capacity of up to 4200kg.

Beechcraft Super King aircraft.

Baykar is already using the 750HP version of this engine on Akinci. If Baykar can integrate the more powerful versions to Akinci and strengthen the wings’ inner pylons, anything is possible.
But these engines are about 1 million US dollars each. They cost half that amount to fully overhaul. So it is not cheap. But the return may be worth it.

 

[Strong AI]

Baykar is already using the 750HP version of this engine on Akinci. If Baykar can integrate the more powerful versions to Akinci and strengthen the wings’ inner pylons, anything is possible.

Akinci-C already uses two 850HP engines and they plan to use TS-1400 for a bigger Akinci (recent CNN interview with Selcuk Bayraktar).

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[Yasar_TR]

Akinci-C already uses two 850HP engines and they plan to use TS-1400 for a bigger Akinci (recent CNN interview with Selcuk Bayraktar).

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Baykar’s site shows this as an engine option for Akinci.
Akinci A, uses 450HP (Ukranian engine).
B version uses PT6A-135 the 750HP engines.

C version using 850HP engines, has flown as you rightfully pointed out. But we don’t know if anyone has yet bought it.
This engine is classed as for medium in terms of weight of plane. The 750HP version is used for small planes in terms of their weight.
So their fuel consumptions and flight endurance can be quite different.

Potentially, the 850HP engine is at the limit of being able to accommodate 2 İHA-300ER missiles. But it can not be ruled out. It all depends on the airframe design of the Akinci.

But remember, fired at 30000 ft, IHA300-ER will have a range of 400km. Fired at 40000ft its range will extend to 500km.
With 850HP engines it may struggle to attain altitude. I remember Selçuk Bayraktar talking about using a 1000HP engines for the Akinci.

 

[TR_123456]

Baykar’s site shows this as an engine option for Akinci.
Akinci A, uses 450HP (Ukranian engine).
B version uses PT6A-135 the 750HP engines.

C version using 850HP engines, has flown as you rightfully pointed out. But we don’t know if anyone has yet bought it.
This engine is classed as for medium in terms of weight of plane. The 750HP version is used for small planes in terms of their weight.
So their fuel consumptions and flight endurance can be quite different.

Potentially, the 850HP engine is at the limit of being able to accommodate 2 İHA-300ER missiles. But it can not be ruled out. It all depends on the airframe design of the Akinci.

But remember, fired at 30000 ft, IHA300-ER will have a range of 400km. Fired at 40000ft its range will extend to 500km.
With 850HP engines it may struggle to attain altitude. I remember Selçuk Bayraktar talking about using a 1000HP engines for the Akinci.

So,my question.
Lets say they pick the right engine,how will the weight shift work when one of the two IHA-300's is fired?
Does it automaticly compensate the weight loss(on the wings) or how does it work?

 

[Yasar_TR]

So,my question.
Lets say they pick the right engine,how will the weight shift work when one of the two IHA-300's is fired?
Does it automaticly compensate the weight loss(on the wings) or how does it work?

Ailerons which control roll to move plane side to side,
Elevators to control pitch to move nose of plane up or down, and
Rudder to control yaw to move plane to left or right would have to be adjusted accordingly by the pilot, unless the plane has a form of AI/flybywire system, to do that to a degree automatically.
Also adjusting power of engines to compensate for the imbalance can be applied.
Pilots are specially trained to react to plane imbalance immediately, to stay in control. But most fly by wire systems‘ computer can compensate when an imbalance occurs.
If a plane can fly with one engine it can be flown with an unbalanced weight distribution. Not ideal. But within the scope of things.

 

[Zafer]

Flaps are used to increase lift of the wings; you lover the flap on the side of the wing where the load is heavier. Flaps and ailerons are similar but flaps are positioned inboard while ailerons are positioned outboard of the wings. So when you drop an IHA300 from one side you lover the flap on the side where there still is an IHA300 attached. Actually flaps are lowered depending on how heavy the plane is but the full lowering angle is like 45° and you don't lower that much in normal cruise.

 

[Strong AI]

Flaps are used to increase lift of the wings; you lover the flap on the side of the wing where the load is heavier. Flaps and ailerons are similar but flaps are positioned inboard while ailerons are positioned outboard of the wings. So when you drop an IHA300 from one side you lover the flap on the side where there still is an IHA300 attached. Actually flaps are lowered depending on how heavy the plane is but the full lowering angle is like 45° and you don't lower that much in normal cruise.

VFE: Maximum Flaps Extended Speed​

VFE, or maximum flap extended speed, is the highest speed permissible with the flaps extended.

This speed is your boundary marker when flying with flaps down, ensuring you don’t cause potential structural damage.

Not all aircraft treat VFE as a singular speed regardless of flap setting. Most aircraft, like the Cessna 172, have different VFE speeds for different flap settings.

In the Cessna 172, you can fly with 10 degrees of flaps below 110 knots. Anything more than 10 degrees of flaps, and you’re limited to 85 knots instead.

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[Yasar_TR]

VFE: Maximum Flaps Extended Speed​

VFE, or maximum flap extended speed, is the highest speed permissible with the flaps extended.

This speed is your boundary marker when flying with flaps down, ensuring you don’t cause potential structural damage.

Not all aircraft treat VFE as a singular speed regardless of flap setting. Most aircraft, like the Cessna 172, have different VFE speeds for different flap settings.

In the Cessna 172, you can fly with 10 degrees of flaps below 110 knots. Anything more than 10 degrees of flaps, and you’re limited to 85 knots instead.

V-Speeds Explained (Vx, Vy, Va, Vs, Vfe, Vmc, Vno, Vne, etc) - Pilot Institute

Here's everything you need to know about V-speeds, plus a handy list so you won't have to Google them again.

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Well noticed.
Planes with twin engines, flying and/or cruising at high altitude, even during the loss of one engine do not use flaps as it would cause immediate descent which is unwanted.
Flaps are primarily used to increase lift at lower speeds during takeoff and landing. At high altitudes, where aircraft fly at higher speeds, flaps can create unnecessary drag and potentially lead to compressibility issues.

 

[Zafer]

VFE: Maximum Flaps Extended Speed​

VFE, or maximum flap extended speed, is the highest speed permissible with the flaps extended.

This speed is your boundary marker when flying with flaps down, ensuring you don’t cause potential structural damage.

Not all aircraft treat VFE as a singular speed regardless of flap setting. Most aircraft, like the Cessna 172, have different VFE speeds for different flap settings.

In the Cessna 172, you can fly with 10 degrees of flaps below 110 knots. Anything more than 10 degrees of flaps, and you’re limited to 85 knots instead.

V-Speeds Explained (Vx, Vy, Va, Vs, Vfe, Vmc, Vno, Vne, etc) - Pilot Institute

Here's everything you need to know about V-speeds, plus a handy list so you won't have to Google them again.

pilotinstitute.com

What is your point, AI dump is not talk.

 

[Zafer]

Flaps work from zero to like 50°, so you set them whatever your safe parameters allow to. You can get some assist from ailerons too but you want to save their control authority for maneuvering. Autopilots do all the control settings within safe parameters without you even noticing.