TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Kaan Azman]

TEMREN is pretty much a slightly modded UMTAS and would be no big deal but it is seemingly used for air-to-air test, I guess they wanna take the AGM-114L7 route.

Compared to CİRİT, it is pretty much fire and forget but also costlier for C-UAS but it is good to have alternative cards up the sleeve if you are not carrying CİRİT launchers.

 

[UkroTurk]

TEMREN is pretty much a slightly modded UMTAS and would be no big deal but it is seemingly used for air-to-air test, I guess they wanna take the AGM-114L7 route.

Compared to CİRİT, it is pretty much fire and forget but also costlier for C-UAS but it is good to have alternative cards up the sleeve if you are not carrying CİRİT launchers.

İnfrared Seekers are not able to detect Shahed Kamikaze UAVs because their tiny motorcycle engines have very low heat signature. Our UMTAS won't work.
That's why US Army use Hellfire Longbow with microwave seekers against UAV and USV.

On the other hand IIR seeker for naval use very fragile. Sea surface can dumb seeker.millimeter wave seeker is an advantage for use in maritime environment. For example RIM 116 RAM- Levent missiles, Sea Spear, Brimstone

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UMTAS also needs such mmW seeker upgrade.

 

[Huelague]

True!
Again not very good. On the surface, the content and title don’t match.
But is it not the fact that Temren is actually a long range missile derived from Umtas and Lumtas? Were there really two different firings? Or was this a Temren missile’s firing?
Any info on target distance?
But the target is hit with close to a bullseye precision. The target plank is wonky, not in line with the parallel inflatables. If it were it would be close to bullseye.
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Is the screenshot from this video?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Is the screenshot from this video?

Yes.

 

[Kaan Azman]

İnfrared Seekers are not able to detect Shahed Kamikaze UAVs because their tiny motorcycle engines have very low heat signature. Our UMTAS won't work.
That's why US Army use Hellfire Longbow with microwave seekers against UAV and USV.
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On the other hand IIR seeker for naval use very fragile. Sea surface can dumb seeker.millimeter wave seeker is an advantage for use in maritime environment. For example RIM 116 RAM- Levent missiles, Sea Spear, Brimstone

Brimstone Sea Spear Strikes Surface Targets In Salvo Test | AIN

Business, Air Transport, Defense & General Aviation News

www.ainonline.com

UMTAS also needs such mmW seeker upgrade.

TÜBİTAK SAGE was working on mmW seekers for KUZGUN and KGK-82-SİHA actually

But back to subject, low-end UAVs with internal combustion engines like Shaheed have their engines wide open and we have seen from the test with EREN that they give a good deal of signature to the IIR seeker. It is just an alternative means on the same route.

Besides, I am guessing they are waiting for a helicopter with a radar like Longbow's for a mmWR tactical missile.

 

[Anmdt]

In which stage is Gezgin right now?

Gezgin is being developed for all forces at once which makes it even harder to complete.

 

[AlperTunga]

Source please?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Source please?

Its not real just a guess. Not to mention we have other bm in development/service

 

[Yasar_TR]

@turkizilm , you have shared a very sensitive and potentially important information.
Authenticity of this information is of paramount importance.
There are many thoughts and statements such that Yildirim-4 project is there as a cover story for other missiles’ development projects.
If you do not have a concrete and believable source and it is just a figment of someone’s imagination you should delete your message. Or at least say and share who is guessing this situation as BM development of Turkiye.

 

[boredaf]

The Yıldırım IV project (2,500 km) has now become a reality. For years, defense circles had reported on the covert development or planning of the Yıldırım IV medium-range ballistic missile, specifically designed to achieve the 2,500 km range (or greater) originally requested by Erdoğan himself. With this development, Turkey and Israel have emerged as possessors of advanced ballistic missile technology in the Eastern Mediterranean; although Iran holds a massive arsenal(ranking second only to China prior to the war) it has yet to achieve "pinpoint" precision.
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Erdoğan requested it so much that he didn't even go anywhere near the thing while he talked in front of Roketsan missiles, took photos with them and signed them.

Would you like to buy a bridge? Slightly used but its location is magnificent.

 

[Zafer]

If space based weapons become a thing we will need multiple space launch sites for our space rockets. A launchpad in Türkiye is more suitable for space launch of weapons than one located overseas.

 

[TR_123456]

Es solo información encontrada en internet —las imágenes también— y no son más que especulaciones. No es nada delicado; disculpen las molestias, las borraré.
By the way, these are just speculations and fun little projects made in Paint—any kid who's a fan could do them; it's sad.

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[turkizilm]

¿Leíste esto?

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Okay, thanks, and sorry—I hadn't read that.

 

[mTT]

#KARAOK: A direct hit on land and in the air!

KARAOK, the battlefield’s agile force, has successfully struck an air target for the first time.

By extending KARAOK’s effectiveness against ground targets to air targets as well, we are strengthening our versatile engagement capabilities against various threats.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2102655412638277845

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2102655412638277845

Didn't expect that tbh. We now have a super low cost C-UAS missile that can be integrated into light convoys. Crazy.

First Eren, then Cirit C-UAS and now Karaok. The dawn of the multipurpose missiles.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Didn't expect that tbh. We now have a super low cost C-UAS missile that can be integrated into light convoys. Crazy.

First Eren, then Cirit C-UAS and now Karaok. The dawn of the multipurpose missiles.

Not really low cost even eren may be cheaper than karaok

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Not really low cost even eren may be cheaper than karaok

That's probably based on the export price which factors in launchers (the electro-optics and computer would make a large portion of that price).