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I fear that TF-X might be inducted in few numbers and subsequent blocks being cancelled altogether due to TAI/Bayraktar's advancement in stealth A2A UAVs.
Even if this happen .. critical tech would have been aquired .. so they will design advanced UAVs using these tech .. like engines.. materials .. casting and production tech .. stealth design .. electronics .. software .. weapons.. tests infra .. and so on .. the tech infrastructure is the most important thing
 

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I fear that TF-X might be inducted in few numbers and subsequent blocks being cancelled altogether due to TAI/Bayraktar's advancement in stealth A2A UAVs.
That UCAV's take over is not going to happen anytime soon.

If we cancel the MMU then we would kill our aviation Industry, this project is more than a aircraft it's the base where future technology will be applied on, whenever the MMU evolves (new Blocks) our companies will gain knowledge no matter if engines, avionics, software, design...

A unmanned version of the MMU is more realistic in the future than a air superiority UCAV developed by TUSAS/Baykar.
 

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By 2025 it will be evident beyond doubt that UCAVs will be the future of air dominance. UCAVs and 5th gen fighters will serve side by side for a time. 6th gen manned/optionally manned fighters are a lost cause. Fighters like the tempest will cost a fortune. 6th gen will be completely unmanned. 4th and 4+ gen aircraft will be mostly obsolete when A-A capable advanced UCAVs like MIUS become a reality.
 

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Unmanned combat aircraft need to prove that they are unhackable before they can replace manned fighters.
 

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Consider that Turkish unmanned aircrafts such as MIUS can perform surveillance and patrol missions in fully autonomous flight mode where situational awareness can be controlled by artificial intelligence computers on the waypoints allocated to them in autonomous mode in peacetime and return to their bases without any human intervention.

Let's go one step further. Consider that all sensors of the same supersonic drones can be controlled by artificial intelligence computers in fully autonomous mode by turning off the satellite or LOS connection for a while in autonomous killer mode to make it more difficult to detect and jamming before entering the enemy's area in wartime. With very low RCS values, imagine the ability to detect an air target by AESA radar and identify as an "enemy unit" by its IFF without any outside interference while approaching enemy elements in swarm mode. Then imagine striking those targets with missiles hidden in the fuselage and being able to engage in dogfights by making hard maneuvers beyond the G forces that a pilot can withstand. TFX will be the bigbrother airborne command and control centers of these fighters and will not endanger itself unnecessarily. In the face of such a system, no air force in the region can have the slightest hope of victory. This is what we will probably see in the 2030s.
 

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I was just thinking of aksungur with 3 engine variant that could be with 2 pd222 front and 1 pd170 back or vice versa for take off and altitude payload performance? China made its tb001 drone with 3 engine variant? How do you think it would work?
 

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Mr Tayyar Süngü from Baykar;
"We are currently able to build critical systems such as GNSS and FADEC, which are difficult to outsource. Also the radar altimeter. We also work with local companies on engines. And we are in close cooperation, especially with universities. For example, BAYKAR is working with a Turkish university on the design of the landing gear and the propeller. Again, we can state that university professors provide consultancy in certain areas, especially critical systems, at BAYKAR."
 

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MIUS stealth fighter drone
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Roketsan announced the start of MAM-T deliveries in 2021.

First impressions from the field are that AKINCI and MAM-T duo did very well.

It is even said that after MAM-T, terrorists avoided hiding inside buildings.

What you mean "inside Buildings"?
World see that they are 99% hiding in Caves or diging tunnels underground. That's why call them Rats
 

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Leader cadres don't stay in caves, only the cannon fodder
 

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