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[uçuyorum]

I mean surely all of these developments are result of siper system maturing, if EIRS and CENK-S perform good, we shouldn't worry. Regardless of whether UMR is on same level as AN/ SPY-6, it seems to at least work on same principle.

 

[Anmdt]

So, in essence UMR will provide fire control beyond the range of CFR? Also, how likely it is that Aselsan got their first long range naval AESA sensor as good as SPY-6?

Fire control in essence, but not as a whole (note that despite SPY-6, American BMD ships had tracking radars for long range precision/illumination). It will track the targets within a certain range, but I think something will remain as a task of the CFR (like ammunition separation, TBMD, UAV detection and so on).

This is something I would doubt, but they eventually foresee a capability equivalent to SPY-6 in the 2030s and hope to reap the fruits of multi-static studies.

 

[Kartal1]

Britain's cash-strapped Navy 'may be forced to sell off its £3.5 billion aircraft carrier the HMS Prince of Wales' amid funding issues​

Britain's Navy 'may be forced to sell off the HMS Prince of Wales'

Senior figures fear HMS Prince of Wales, which cost £3.5billion to build, could be mothballed or sold for a knockdown price to a friendly nation, over the fleet's flagship HMS Queen Elizabeth.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What's the chance?

 

[Sanchez]

Britain's cash-strapped Navy 'may be forced to sell off its £3.5 billion aircraft carrier the HMS Prince of Wales' amid funding issues​

Britain's Navy 'may be forced to sell off the HMS Prince of Wales'

Senior figures fear HMS Prince of Wales, which cost £3.5billion to build, could be mothballed or sold for a knockdown price to a friendly nation, over the fleet's flagship HMS Queen Elizabeth.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What's the chance?

In a world where PoW is not mired with issues, it's near useless as a carrier without F-35B without major modifications.

 

[UkroTurk]

Britain's cash-strapped Navy 'may be forced to sell off its £3.5 billion aircraft carrier the HMS Prince of Wales' amid funding issues​

Britain's Navy 'may be forced to sell off the HMS Prince of Wales'

Senior figures fear HMS Prince of Wales, which cost £3.5billion to build, could be mothballed or sold for a knockdown price to a friendly nation, over the fleet's flagship HMS Queen Elizabeth.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What's the chance?

Noway. Hell no. We could produce 7 destroyer for 3.5 million* pounds. Edit: billion

 

[Afif]

Noway. Hell no. We could produce 7 destroyer for 3.5 million pounds

In that case Turkish Navy's budget would be sufficient to domitane USN and PLAN simultaneously.

 

[boredaf]

Britain's cash-strapped Navy 'may be forced to sell off its £3.5 billion aircraft carrier the HMS Prince of Wales' amid funding issues​

Britain's Navy 'may be forced to sell off the HMS Prince of Wales'

Senior figures fear HMS Prince of Wales, which cost £3.5billion to build, could be mothballed or sold for a knockdown price to a friendly nation, over the fleet's flagship HMS Queen Elizabeth.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What's the chance?

It's fucking Daily Mail mate, you'd be better off believing transfer news coming from Fanatik or Fotomaç.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Noway. Hell no. We could produce 7 destroyer for 3.5 million* pounds. Edit: billion

We need AC , not 1 but 2 so i support if UK want to sell it its new and we can build another one ourself . We need 2 AC 2 LHD (anadolu like) and 12 Tf 2000 and 12 Frigates to protect our Vatan , and Goverment to want fuxckiing buy 40 billion $ useless 40 f16 aircrafts and parts from USA which will be controlled via their computer and other systems everytimes US ass wants

 

[UkroTurk]

useless 40 f16 aircrafts

We have got such useless another 200 f-16s for decades.

Bu sure , not 40 but 23 billion dollars will make those 200 F-16s very useful!

Before an Aircraft carrier you need aircrafts.

 

[boredaf]

We need AC , not 1 but 2 so i support if UK want to sell it its new and we can build another one ourself . We need 2 AC 2 LHD (anadolu like) and 12 Tf 2000 and 12 Frigates to protect our Vatan , and Goverment to want fuxckiing buy 40 billion $ useless 40 f16 aircrafts and parts from USA which will be controlled via their computer and other systems everytimes US ass wants

We don't need aircraft carriers to protect our country, that doesn't even make sense. Aircraft carriers are for projecting power far away from your country, not staying close to it.

And about F-16s being controlled via their computers stuff, you need a reality check mate. That's not how anything works.

 

[Huelague]

We have got such useless another 200 f-16s for decades.

Bu sure , not 40 but 23 billion dollars will make those 200 F-16s very useful!

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Before an Aircraft carrier you need aircrafts.

We Have The Approval To Purchase All This Systems And Weapons! But..

it doesnt mean that we will purchase all of it. Or any of it.

 

[uçuyorum]

We don't need aircraft carriers to protect our country, that doesn't even make sense. Aircraft carriers are for projecting power far away from your country, not staying close to it.

And about F-16s being controlled via their computers stuff, you need a reality check mate. That's not how anything works.

I'm not really defending his point, but if US wanted to put a backdoor entry or killswitch to complex and closed digital systems in any of its advanced weapons, it would probably be trivial effort for them.

 

[UkroTurk]

We Have The Approval To Purchase All This Systems And Weapons! But..

it doesnt mean that we will purchase all of it. Or any of it.

So it doesn't mean we will pay 23billion

 

[BalkanTurk90]

We don't need aircraft carriers to protect our country, that doesn't even make sense. Aircraft carriers are for projecting power far away from your country, not staying close to it.

And about F-16s being controlled via their computers stuff, you need a reality check mate. That's not how anything works.

Aslo projecting power far away is part of protecting your country and intetests

 

[Saithan]

Stop going back to past discussions, I can see the IQ level dwindling.

 

[Sanchez]

 

[Sanchez]

Al Doha Class cadet training/OPV ships are not something huge or very special, but I think they would be a simple and not so expensive design as a training ship for the navy. Anadolu already built 2 of them back to back and very fast. Put a 30mm gun on the bow, work it as an OPV when needed. It'd be a great addition to train sailors, not just Turkish but now Somali as well.

source

 

[Afif]

Al Doha Class cadet training/OPV ships are not something huge or very special, but I think they would be a simple and not so expensive design as a training ship for the navy. Anadolu already built 2 of them back to back and very fast. Put a 30mm gun on the bow, work it as an OPV when needed. It'd be a great addition to train sailors, not just Turkish but now Somali as well.

source

Do we know much does it cost per unit?

 

[Sanchez]

Do we know much does it cost per unit?

No project cost was made public. From a quick skim, most I could find was a 800 million dollar figure for all the projects signed by Turkish companies in Dimdex 2018, which also include 200+ NMS from Nurol, 85 Kirpi and Amazon from BMC, 6 TB2s from Baykar, 9 boats up to 50 meters from Ares and 8 MRTP-24s from Yonca Onuk.

Savunma sanayisinden ekonomiye 800 Milyon Dolar katkı

Türk savunma sanayisi firmalarının Katar'daki Doha Uluslararası Deniz Savunma Fuarı ve Konferansı'nda (DIMDEX 2018) imzaladıkları sözleşmelerin ekonomik büyüklüğü yaklaşık 800 milyon doları buldu.

turkdeniz.com

So the number don't mean anything

 

[Zafer]

Levent close in air defense system rocket on display in full size. I wonder if the canisters can be refilled during mission or it requires a port visit like the MIDLAS.

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