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[Saithan]

If we build 20-30 helicopters too many. I bet that they can be sold with profit, just as our Ada classes being built FFBNW can be sold off the moment they pass sea tests. Because of the situation the world is in atm. Our need is great, and while we may be cash strapped there are countries willing to pay a bit extra for instant delivery.

Look at how Israel managed to deliver AD system to Denmark a day or two after the acquisition. Battle proven goes like hot cakes ffs. And while there are a flood of UAV, UCAVs and such, Utility helicopters and naval variants are very much still needed.

I hope our cooperation with Italy will result in us producing AW Marlin

 

[Yasar_TR]

We haven’t even started on the MLU of the remainder of our Barbaros Class ships.
1. Optimistically it could be because they want to see if what they have done on TCG Orucreis has improved the ship’s overall performance to a level that would warrant the remainder to be upgraded as well.
2. Realistically either they haven’t got the spare finances to do it and/or they can’t spare the ships as they are still in use.

@Saithan bro, if they could build helicopters like Gokbey with TS1400, our forces would want them before other countries.
We need more Blackhawks and a good number of Seahawks like yesterday.

What we need is really a T700 engine production license with a view to have 2000HP and 2500+HP power levels. And know how to navalise the helicopters and their engines we will build.
It is embarrassing to see AH-1W Super Cobras operating from our brand new amphibious assault ship. These helicopters were purchased nearly 35 years ago. And they were second hand then.
Merlin helicopters use RR developed engines. But those engines’ production rights have been passed on to Safran. So you would have to seek French approval. (RTM 322 Turbomecha).
Merlin helicopters are manufactured in UK. Their engines supplied by Safran through their subsidiary in Fareham UK in line with the contract Safran signed when it took over the rights of the RTM322.

 

[boredaf]

Merlin helicopters use RR developed engines. But those engines’ production rights have been passed on to Safran. So you would have to seek French approval. (RTM 322 Turbomecha).
Merlin helicopters are manufactured in UK. Their engines supplied by Safran through their subsidiary in Fareham UK in line with the contract Safran signed when it took over the rights of the RTM322.

Ah fuck. Wonder if they have work around for that, because one way or the other (whether from US or somewhere else), we need these helicopters yesterday. At least until our alternatives are ready.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Afaik they offer Merlin only with american engines since 2020.
"Powerplant
GE CT7-8E Turboshafts with FADEC"

AW101 - Military Helicopters

Discover Leonardo's latest generation AW101 helicopters: suitable for a wide range of missions, it guarantees high levels of performance

helicopters.leonardo.com

GE-CT7-8 series is a more powerful engine. It can develop up to 3000HP. Previously I had mentioned that we could redevelop the T700 engine we are building for our Blackhawks in to this engine as there was a clause in the license agreement to allow that.
Where much heavier lift and higher performance are required this engine is used. UK owned Merlins‘ engines are “predominantly” RTM-322. In fact some 80+% of all Merlins have RTM-322 engines.
Danish airforce and Italian airforce have ordered their A101s with CT7 engines.
Some 6 Merlin helicopters were built with GE engines for the POTUS’s use. But it was later cancelled and sold to Canada.

GE-CT7 range engines are the commercial version of the military T700 engine. It has been developed to provide more power to be used for heavy lift platforms. Now it is being used in military helicopters.

GE engines give better fuel efficiency and maintenance cycles.

It is a choice buyers have. Currently new A101 helicopters are fitted and offered with GE engines. But as far as I know, the version that is fitted to the military helicopters is 1491KW (2000HP) version; whereas the RTM322s fitted to Merlin are 1567KW (2101HP) power rated.
The CT7-8E engine develops 1884KW (2527HP) and used in civilian certified situations. In one engine inoperative cases this engine has superlative performance with two engines.

Getting back to French approval, if the GE engines are chosen, then US approval is going to be needed. But it is up to UK or Italy to get that for us.

 

[UkroTurk]

The mother ship of manned midget submarine

Which one does Turkish Navy really urges in case of conflicts? Aircraft carrier? TCG Anadolu ?or multl purpose support ship?

TN should have had those MRSS instead of TCG Anadolu.


Look at the other Navies:

Yushan-class landing platform dock - Wikipedia

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San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock - Wikipedia

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Bay-class landing ship - Wikipedia

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Rotterdam-class landing platform dock - Wikipedia

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Galicia-class landing platform dock - Wikipedia

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French ship Siroco (L9012) - Wikipedia

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Type 071 amphibious transport dock - Wikipedia

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Austin-class amphibious transport dock - Wikipedia

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Makassar-class landing platform dock - Wikipedia

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[Brave Janissary]

Tcg Anadolu tank and mechanized area could be aviation deck and with addon second deck and cable brakes, Anadolu could be complete ucav/usv mothership.

 

[Sanchez]

Türkiye’s leading naval company, STM has unveiled its Multi-Role Support Ship (MRSS) design for the first time at the LIMA Exhibition in Malaysia. Designed to support amphibious operations by transporting armored units, the vessel will also serve as a logistical support and evacuation/hospital ship during crises.

STM - STM Unveils Its Next-Gen Multi-Role Support Ship for the First Time at LIMA

www.stm.com.tr

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924744576297808195

Seeing them side by side, MRSS really looks like an enlarged, amphibious Ada

 

[Oublious]

 

[mTT]

Retired Naval Staff Colonel Derya Günergin begins recounting his submarine experience at minute 20:26

 

[Yasar_TR]

ROKETSAN Introduces Strategic MİDLAS for MİLDEN Submarines | TURDEF

During 12th Naval Systems Seminar, ROKETSAN unveiled the upcoming configuration of MİDLAS VLS for the MİLDEN submarine to use cruise and ballistic missiles.

turdef.com

Interesting article!
Roketsan has introduced a strategic MIDLAS for MILDEN submarines.
It is envisaged that a Sub Launched Tayfun is also planned, in addition to the extended range sub launched Atmaca.

Below paragraph is very intriguing:

quote

Tayfun’s latest demonstrations have shown very low deviation from the target and high speed. Murat İkinci previously stated a range of 1000 km for Block I and 1500 km for the Block II configuration of Tayfun during an interview with CNN Türk in 2023.

unquote.

 

[Tornadoss]

Ah STM 500, you were the perfect fit for those seas and those navies, but it didn't work out. It can only go so far without state support.
If there had been state support, sea trials could have been carried out right now.
If we do not provide state support for such projects, we cannot introduce new products to new markets.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1926695504789856611

It seems there are issues with funding of some projects.

 

[Sanchez]

It seems there are issues with funding of some projects.

STM500 was something navy or SSB never asked for. STM went it thinking they could either get funding for more studies or bag a customer. Neither happened. It wasn't a "project" to be funded however.

 

[zio]

reis class submarine cutaway,it really surprised me about resting areas seems very comfortable.

 

[zio]

Two or three of reis class will have SAT container,all of them will get digital underwater telephone to communicate with i class frigate,which will have same telefhone from second ship.These secure comm can be used as to recognise friend orfoe,called IfS system.

 

[Sanchez]

reis class submarine cutaway,it really surprised me about resting areas seems very comfortable. View attachment 75328 View attachment 75329 View attachment 75330 View attachment 75331

I'm not really sure if this is to scale.

 

[TR_123456]

Isn't this the summary of the video that news is talking about? Where is he giving information about range?

You saying TurDef is giving wrong information?

 

[mTT]

Isn't this the summary of the video that news is talking about? Where is he giving information about range?

ROKETSAN Genel Müdürü Murat İKİNCİ: `SİPER Blok-2 Füzesi 150km Menzile Ulaşacak`

Savunma Sanayii Başkanı İsmail DEMİR, ROKETSAN Genel Müdürü Murat İKİNCİ, HAVELSAN Genel Müdürü Mehmet Akif NACAR, ASELSAN Genel Müdürü Haluk GÖRGÜN ve TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Temel KOTİL; 27 Mayıs günü Fu

www.defenceturkey.com

Yes
I would be happy if someone proves otherwise.

SSB and Roketsan have no official range announcement, but there are hidden messages in the statements made.
"Space Program" , "TAYFUN"


I think there will be a 1500km range variant of the Tayfun.

 

[Zafer]

Tayfun or whatever they want to name the product can be launched both from land and from a submarine or perhaps from a surface ship. For this reason we can expect several versions of it to be adapted for different launch options as well as target types. This will also mean several different range options. Highly likely that the next one up will be a 1500-2000 km range one.

 

[mTT]

Another stunning challenge from the Turkish defense industry!

The National Submarine (MİLDEN), under construction at Gölcük Shipyard, will also fire the ballistic missile TAYFUN thanks to ROKETSAN MİDLAS.

Bu The capability means that national submarines can hit any sea/land target with a ballistic missile from 1500 km away.

The development, which will upset the balances, was announced during the 12th Naval Systems Seminar (DSS) held at the Istanbul Naval Museum on May 26, 2025.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1927301077835174341

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1927384195283689912