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[Quasar]

SATCOM ???

 

[Anmdt]

SATCOM ???

Yeah, they have added another one on the rear platform, besides the elevator and there are some small antennas added recently.

Mostlikely, is for drone operations, loosely integrated to TCG Anadolu by Baykar (of course funded through acquisition channels).

So instead of using organic, on-board sensors and datalinks, satcoms; It seems Baykar has been installing their own parallel systems on board.

Specifically that forward position, which is also where Ground Control Station of Baykar is located at, goes through high accelerations and vibrations on high seas (slamming, et al. ). That satcom will hardly survive after an Atlantic and Mediterrenean trip.

There are new additions on the frontside of island, on starboard side and the same pattern exists on the sternside of the island, on the port side.

There are at least 8 new small, and 2 large antennas installed for drone operations, by Baykar.

 

[Tornadoss]

Yeah, they have added another one on the rear platform, besides the elevator and there are some small antennas added recently.

Mostlikely, is for drone operations, loosely integrated to TCG Anadolu by Baykar (of course funded through acquisition channels).

So instead of using organic, on-board sensors and datalinks, satcoms; It seems Baykar has been installing their own parallel systems on board.

Specifically that forward position, which is also where Ground Control Station of Baykar is located at, goes through high accelerations and vibrations on high seas (slamming, et al. ). That satcom will hardly survive after an Atlantic and Mediterrenean trip.

There are new additions on the frontside of island, on starboard side and the same pattern exists on the sternside of the island, on the port side.

There are at least 8 new small, and 2 large antennas installed for drone operarions, by Baykar.

Why does Baykar insist on installing their own systems?

 

[Anmdt]

Why does Baykar insist on installing their own systems?

The leverage they have got.
I haven't heard a single common system they have willingly been integrating to.

 

[boredaf]

Oh God, please no. Last time MKE attempted to make a 'national' CIWS it ended up in a catastrophy and now they are going for counter-drone, which is technically 'the most cruicial' defense system for ships nowadays.

They will ruin this big time, and get it delayed for a few months and end up witha a 25% functioning system where Navy eventually go to Aselsan / Meteksan for a proper deal and get it done in 5 years. (Alson we shall bear in mind, MKE uses Meteksan radars, but the final integrator is MKE which is the worst of all).

I don't like Ihami Keles personally, he gets his nose into anything possible that is far outside the reach of MKE.

Ships have stabilized cannons, ready and installed. Add two more and get wider coverage, add a decent radar coverage (6 / 8 aura 200G or Meteksan) for proximity defence and use RCWS / CIWS in coordination for USV/UAV defence. Logic dictates expansion of an existing system, not integration of a whole new system through funding development phase, testing phase and filling pockets of few people.

Also logic dictates the final integration should be carried out either by Havelsan, being the CMS and related ship data distribution subcontractor, or Aselsan, being the one who integrates most of the weapon systems and EMI/EMC design, for such a critical system

Anti-Drone is no joke in this century and i hope they won't leave it to few rookies in MKE who outsources most of integration and development, except producing bullets and barrels (yet somehow magically failing at this too) to whomever deals for cheaper.

Also, to get proper coverage, you need a distributed system that is going to cover all approaches to the ship with the same effectiveness, and will perhaps even have some overlap to focus multiple systems in that spot if necessary. What MKE showed is just a bunch of systems of different calibre, well actually they only showed 12.7mm and I think 25mm, on a truck bed. That doesn't make sense on a ship. Put 6 Aselsan Stop, 3 on both sides, give the ship full coverage and let them deal with USVs and UAVs. Put them on sponsons if necessary to give them better coverage and better elevation.

 

[SCAR]

TCG Oruçreis (F-245)

 

[SCAR]

The Anadolu Turkish Naval Task Group has departed from Izmir Foça for Spain to participate in NATO missions across 13 countries. Over the next decade, the Navy will significantly expand its fleet with new frigates, OPVs, and destroyers. To sustain these task groups, the newly delivered replenishment ship TCG Derya (A-1590) was specifically designed to provide essential combat logistics and support.

 

[Pokemonte13]

We need more of these

 

[Sanchez]

USN NAVSEA delegation visited Istanbul Shipyard Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015420109079077018

I don't think this ever happened before, maybe during transfer of OHPs or earlier. Interesting to say the least; but navy did show the world that it can handle so many things all at once, sharing workload between state and private shipyards at rapid succession. There are indeed things they can learn from us. I wouldn't expect a USD based deal like export of ships or technology, maybe we can see a deal for maintenance of local USN ships in the future.

 

[Zafer]

USN NAVSEA delegation visited Istanbul Shipyard Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015420109079077018

I don't think this ever happened before, maybe during transfer of OHPs or earlier. Interesting to say the least; but navy did show the world that it can handle so many things all at once, sharing workload between state and private shipyards at rapid succession. There are indeed things they can learn from us. I wouldn't expect a USD based deal like export of ships or technology, maybe we can see a deal for maintenance of local USN ships in the future.

US has this law requiring USN ships to be built in the US, the best case scenario our shipyards can relocate to the US to make ships for them or Trump chages the law.

 

[Iskander]

USN NAVSEA delegation visited Istanbul Shipyard Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015420109079077018

I don't think this ever happened before, maybe during transfer of OHPs or earlier. Interesting to say the least; but navy did show the world that it can handle so many things all at once, sharing workload between state and private shipyards at rapid succession. There are indeed things they can learn from us. I wouldn't expect a USD based deal like export of ships or technology, maybe we can see a deal for maintenance of local USN ships in the future.

I wouldn't be surprised if Americans came to Turkey to learn a thing or two about shipbuilding. Frankly, I don't know them. But they shamelessly copied the Iranian "Shahid 136."
In fact, when Sultan Bayezid II sent the Ottoman fleet to Spain to rescue Jews, Columbus's ships hadn't yet reached the "West Indies," later renamed "America."

 

[boredaf]

Frankly, I don't know them.

Yeah, that much is obvious. And your second point is so irrelevant that it is impressive.

 

[Sanchez]

US has this law requiring USN ships to be built in the US, the best case scenario our shipyards can relocate to the US to make ships for them or Trump chages the law.

It's called the Jones Act. No possible way to build an American ship here; and as they did not visit any private shipyards that might want to do it, doubtful.

But still, naval shipyard can share knowhow.

 

[Zafer]

It's called the Jones Act. No possible way to build an American ship here; and as they did not visit any private shipyards that might want to do it, doubtful.

But still, naval shipyard can share knowhow.

Korea is a bigger candidate to make ships for America, I had seen news about it a few weeks ago. I bet they are here to vet the capabilities of Türkiye's shipyards overall and if İstanbul Shipyard is up to par other shipyards can be brought up to the same standards they must be thinking. Probably work culture and technology use matters here as transferable values to a location far far away.