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[Quasar]

SATCOM ???

 

[Anmdt]

SATCOM ???

Yeah, they have added another one on the rear platform, besides the elevator and there are some small antennas added recently.

Mostlikely, is for drone operations, loosely integrated to TCG Anadolu by Baykar (of course funded through acquisition channels).

So instead of using organic, on-board sensors and datalinks, satcoms; It seems Baykar has been installing their own parallel systems on board.

Specifically that forward position, which is also where Ground Control Station of Baykar is located at, goes through high accelerations and vibrations on high seas (slamming, et al. ). That satcom will hardly survive after an Atlantic and Mediterrenean trip.

There are new additions on the frontside of island, on starboard side and the same pattern exists on the sternside of the island, on the port side.

There are at least 8 new small, and 2 large antennas installed for drone operations, by Baykar.

 

[Tornadoss]

Yeah, they have added another one on the rear platform, besides the elevator and there are some small antennas added recently.

Mostlikely, is for drone operations, loosely integrated to TCG Anadolu by Baykar (of course funded through acquisition channels).

So instead of using organic, on-board sensors and datalinks, satcoms; It seems Baykar has been installing their own parallel systems on board.

Specifically that forward position, which is also where Ground Control Station of Baykar is located at, goes through high accelerations and vibrations on high seas (slamming, et al. ). That satcom will hardly survive after an Atlantic and Mediterrenean trip.

There are new additions on the frontside of island, on starboard side and the same pattern exists on the sternside of the island, on the port side.

There are at least 8 new small, and 2 large antennas installed for drone operarions, by Baykar.

Why does Baykar insist on installing their own systems?

 

[Anmdt]

Why does Baykar insist on installing their own systems?

The leverage they have got.
I haven't heard a single common system they have willingly been integrating to.

 

[boredaf]

Oh God, please no. Last time MKE attempted to make a 'national' CIWS it ended up in a catastrophy and now they are going for counter-drone, which is technically 'the most cruicial' defense system for ships nowadays.

They will ruin this big time, and get it delayed for a few months and end up witha a 25% functioning system where Navy eventually go to Aselsan / Meteksan for a proper deal and get it done in 5 years. (Alson we shall bear in mind, MKE uses Meteksan radars, but the final integrator is MKE which is the worst of all).

I don't like Ihami Keles personally, he gets his nose into anything possible that is far outside the reach of MKE.

Ships have stabilized cannons, ready and installed. Add two more and get wider coverage, add a decent radar coverage (6 / 8 aura 200G or Meteksan) for proximity defence and use RCWS / CIWS in coordination for USV/UAV defence. Logic dictates expansion of an existing system, not integration of a whole new system through funding development phase, testing phase and filling pockets of few people.

Also logic dictates the final integration should be carried out either by Havelsan, being the CMS and related ship data distribution subcontractor, or Aselsan, being the one who integrates most of the weapon systems and EMI/EMC design, for such a critical system

Anti-Drone is no joke in this century and i hope they won't leave it to few rookies in MKE who outsources most of integration and development, except producing bullets and barrels (yet somehow magically failing at this too) to whomever deals for cheaper.

Also, to get proper coverage, you need a distributed system that is going to cover all approaches to the ship with the same effectiveness, and will perhaps even have some overlap to focus multiple systems in that spot if necessary. What MKE showed is just a bunch of systems of different calibre, well actually they only showed 12.7mm and I think 25mm, on a truck bed. That doesn't make sense on a ship. Put 6 Aselsan Stop, 3 on both sides, give the ship full coverage and let them deal with USVs and UAVs. Put them on sponsons if necessary to give them better coverage and better elevation.

 

[SCAR]

TCG Oruçreis (F-245)

 

[SCAR]

The Anadolu Turkish Naval Task Group has departed from Izmir Foça for Spain to participate in NATO missions across 13 countries. Over the next decade, the Navy will significantly expand its fleet with new frigates, OPVs, and destroyers. To sustain these task groups, the newly delivered replenishment ship TCG Derya (A-1590) was specifically designed to provide essential combat logistics and support.

 

[Pokemonte13]

We need more of these

 

[Sanchez]

USN NAVSEA delegation visited Istanbul Shipyard Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015420109079077018

I don't think this ever happened before, maybe during transfer of OHPs or earlier. Interesting to say the least; but navy did show the world that it can handle so many things all at once, sharing workload between state and private shipyards at rapid succession. There are indeed things they can learn from us. I wouldn't expect a USD based deal like export of ships or technology, maybe we can see a deal for maintenance of local USN ships in the future.

 

[Zafer]

USN NAVSEA delegation visited Istanbul Shipyard Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015420109079077018

I don't think this ever happened before, maybe during transfer of OHPs or earlier. Interesting to say the least; but navy did show the world that it can handle so many things all at once, sharing workload between state and private shipyards at rapid succession. There are indeed things they can learn from us. I wouldn't expect a USD based deal like export of ships or technology, maybe we can see a deal for maintenance of local USN ships in the future.

US has this law requiring USN ships to be built in the US, the best case scenario our shipyards can relocate to the US to make ships for them or Trump chages the law.

 

[boredaf]

Frankly, I don't know them.

Yeah, that much is obvious. And your second point is so irrelevant that it is impressive.

 

[Sanchez]

US has this law requiring USN ships to be built in the US, the best case scenario our shipyards can relocate to the US to make ships for them or Trump chages the law.

It's called the Jones Act. No possible way to build an American ship here; and as they did not visit any private shipyards that might want to do it, doubtful.

But still, naval shipyard can share knowhow.

 

[Zafer]

It's called the Jones Act. No possible way to build an American ship here; and as they did not visit any private shipyards that might want to do it, doubtful.

But still, naval shipyard can share knowhow.

Korea is a bigger candidate to make ships for America, I had seen news about it a few weeks ago. I bet they are here to vet the capabilities of Türkiye's shipyards overall and if İstanbul Shipyard is up to par other shipyards can be brought up to the same standards they must be thinking. Probably work culture and technology use matters here as transferable values to a location far far away.

 

[Sanchez]

To clarify, this is a MoU between TAIS, a private shipyard consortium and Barzan, a Qatari state owned holding. It's an agreement to build two ships for Qatari Navy. It's not a G2G agreement to sell 2 Istifs currently in production to Qatar. Izmir and Izmit are not TAIS' to sell, they are ordered and owned by MoD.

This is the second export success of Istif class, only 1 year after the first ship was commissioned.

Or not.

"According to information obtained by Naval News at the exhibition, the sixth and eighth frigates of the program—corresponding to the second and fourth I-class frigates—will be exported to Indonesia. Within the MILGEM program, the first four vessels are ADA-class corvettes, while the fifth ship is the lead I-class frigate TCG İstanbul. Barzan Holdings is financing the deal: They will grant a loan to Indonesia for this Turkish frigate acquisition project.

The two frigates originally planned for delivery to the Turkish Navy as future TCG İzmir and TCG İçel will therefore be transferred to the export program. TAIS will build two additional I-class frigates for the Turkish Navy, which will become the 13th and 14th ships of the MILGEM program. Currently, 7 frigates are under construction simultaneously at the shipyards affiliated with TAIS."

TAIS Signs $1 Billion Frigate Agreement with Qatar's Barzan Holdings for Indonesia - Naval News

Turkish shipbuilding consortium TAIS signed an agreement with Qatar's Barzan Holdings for two frigates at the DIMDEX 2026 exhibition in Doha, valued at approximately $1 billion USD. The vessels are intended for the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL).

www.navalnews.com

 

[Khagan1923]

Or not.

"According to information obtained by Naval News at the exhibition, the sixth and eighth frigates of the program—corresponding to the second and fourth I-class frigates—will be exported to Indonesia. Within the MILGEM program, the first four vessels are ADA-class corvettes, while the fifth ship is the lead I-class frigate TCG İstanbul. Barzan Holdings is financing the deal: They will grant a loan to Indonesia for this Turkish frigate acquisition project.

The two frigates originally planned for delivery to the Turkish Navy as future TCG İzmir and TCG İçel will therefore be transferred to the export program. TAIS will build two additional I-class frigates for the Turkish Navy, which will become the 13th and 14th ships of the MILGEM program. Currently, 7 frigates are under construction simultaneously at the shipyards affiliated with TAIS."

TAIS Signs $1 Billion Frigate Agreement with Qatar's Barzan Holdings for Indonesia - Naval News

Turkish shipbuilding consortium TAIS signed an agreement with Qatar's Barzan Holdings for two frigates at the DIMDEX 2026 exhibition in Doha, valued at approximately $1 billion USD. The vessels are intended for the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL).

www.navalnews.com

Great idea, not like Navy has been waiting for these ships for 20 years. Good job, government . While your neighbor ups its capabilities you sell much needed frigates that are supposed to inject new blood into the fleet to Indonesia.

Couldn't even give them two of the second batch nooooo gotta be ones that are 90% finished, wonder who got his hands bribed for this decision.

Handing a ship over that has been given the name Izmir is such an disgrace not even joking, Im fucking fuming right now. Especially one that is supposed to be handed over in a couple months to the navy.

I truly hope this is a fucking joke.

 

[TR_123456]

"According to information obtained by Naval News at the exhibition, the sixth and eighth frigates of the program—corresponding to the second and fourth I-class frigates—will be exported to Indonesia. Within the MILGEM program, the first four vessels are ADA-class corvettes, while the fifth ship is the lead I-class frigate TCG İstanbul. Barzan Holdings is financing the deal: They will grant a loan to Indonesia for this Turkish frigate acquisition project.

The two frigates originally planned for delivery to the Turkish Navy as future TCG İzmir and TCG İçel will therefore be transferred to the export program. TAIS will build two additional I-class frigates for the Turkish Navy, which will become the 13th and 14th ships of the MILGEM program. Currently, 7 frigates are under construction simultaneously at the shipyards affiliated with TAIS."

So,what kind of bs is this?
Why does Indonesia get priority over Turkish Navy?
Indonesia has no enemies,why cant it wait?
This administration is showing us time and time again that money is the priority above all.

 

[Zafer]

When our local opponents enter our army's range of fire our navy can deploy ships overseas, good job Türkiye.
We should take some more ship orders from other friends and allies too creating jobs for our youth which suffer a joblessness rate of 15.4%.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Might as well just sell all the ships except the TCG Anadolu and transfer that to Baykar for advertiment then close the Navy at this point lol

 

[Yasar_TR]

Selling major military equipment like a frigate is the best thing a country can do economically . But doing it by weakening your military power projection is wrong. TCG Yavuz and TCG Fatih are already taken out of inventory and are being used as training ships. We are already down by a frigate. TCG Izmir would have brought the numbers back to our previous standing.
We need our frigate and combatant force to grow by at least 50%. Not shrink.

You send your best 4 ships, including TCG Anadolu, TCG, Istanbul and TCG Kinaliada, thousands of miles away. Then sell the two best frigates that are shortly going to join your fleet. Is this a good military move? To me that is madness. Money isn’t everything!

 

[MonteCarlo]

Selling major military equipment like a frigate is the best thing a country can do economically . But doing it by weakening your military power projection is wrong. TCG Yavuz and TCG Fatih are already taken out of inventory and are being used as training ships. We are already down by a frigate. TCG Izmir would have brought the numbers back to our previous standing.

You send your best 4 ships, including TCG Anadolu, TCG, Istanbul and TCG Kinaliada, thousands of miles away. Then sell the two best frigates that are shortly going to join your fleet. Is this a good military move? To me that is madness. Money isn’t everything!

At this rate Mugem will not only lack any helicopter or fighter jets to take off from it but also a mission group to protect it. We are building it as a museum piece I suppose