Brazil One step away from sovereignty

[BrazilianPatriot]

Brazil is developing a nuclear submarine and already masters uranium enrichment technology.


Given Brazil's size, resources and regional position, could a nuclear deterrent eventually become part of its long-term strategic debate?


Or would the diplomatic and economic costs of breaking the non-proliferation regime outweigh the strategic benefits?

 

[TR_123456]

Brazil is developing a nuclear submarine and already masters uranium enrichment technology.


Given Brazil's size, resources and regional position, could a nuclear deterrent eventually become part of its long-term strategic debate?


Or would the diplomatic and economic costs of breaking the non-proliferation regime outweigh the strategic benefits?

Why would Brasil need Nuclear deterence,against whome?

 

[Merzifonlu]

Why would Brasil need Nuclear deterence,against whome?

Against USA

 

[Yasar_TR]

Brasil doesn’t really have any enemies.But the real gist of the matter here is being able to have access to nuclear power and nuclear technology, through which they intend to manufacture their own mini nuclear reactors to use in nuclear submarines.
They have a huge country and a long shoreline to protect. They have a good, established aircraft industry. Already producing/assembling/designing Gripen E fighter jets in cooperation with Sweden. Until recently they have been buying the second hand Carriers and LHDs from UK and France. I guess in time they will be building their own Nuclear Powered Carriers.

 

[BrazilianPatriot]

Why would Brasil need Nuclear deterence,against whome?

It's not about having enemy X or Y, it's about sovereignty. In today's world, where realism prevails and international law has turned to dust, only countries with deterrent power are respected.

Just now, the US signed an agreement with Paraguay to send American troops to Paraguayan territory (under the supposed pretext of combating organized crime). We saw in Venezuela the real objectives of the US on the continent.

Brazil possesses the second largest reserve of rare earth elements in the world and a significant portion of the Amazon rainforest and has an immense commercial relationship with China, and the Americans want to curb this Chinese advance in the region.

 

[BrazilianPatriot]

Brasil doesn’t really have any enemies.But the real gist of the matter here is being able to have access to nuclear power and nuclear technology, through which they intend to manufacture their own mini nuclear reactors to use in nuclear submarines.
They have a huge country and a long shoreline to protect. They have a good, established aircraft industry. Already producing/assembling/designing Gripen E fighter jets in cooperation with Sweden. Until recently they have been buying the second hand Carriers and LHDs from UK and France. I guess in time they will be building their own Nuclear Powered Carriers.

Exactly my point.

 

[TR_123456]

It's not about having enemy X or Y, it's about sovereignty. In today's world, where realism prevails and international law has turned to dust, only countries with deterrent power are respected.

Just now, the US signed an agreement with Paraguay to send American troops to Paraguayan territory (under the supposed pretext of combating organized crime). We saw in Venezuela the real objectives of the US on the continent.

Brazil possesses the second largest reserve of rare earth elements in the world and a significant portion of the Amazon rainforest and has an immense commercial relationship with China, and the Americans want to curb this Chinese advance in the region.

Yes,you need to wake up lived to long in the American ''bubble''.

 

[BrazilianPatriot]

Yes,you need to wake up lived to long in the American ''bubble''.

There is significant critical debate in Brazil regarding American imperialism. Obviously, it's not in the mainstream media (which is an extension of the liberal media in the US).

In any case, Trump has removed the mask of the empire; he doesn't even care. Countries have to react to this or they will be transformed into vassals like Argentina and Paraguay, or a puppet like Venezuela.

 

[TR_123456]

There is significant critical debate in Brazil regarding American imperialism. Obviously, it's not in the mainstream media (which is an extension of the liberal media in the US).

In any case, Trump has removed the mask of the empire; he doesn't even care. Countries have to react to this or they will be transformed into vassals like Argentina and Paraguay, or a puppet like Venezuela.

In your favor is your defence industry base,none of te other countries produces sophisticated platforms.
Brasil needs to act its size,this looks like the time to so.
You say there is debate but we know what that means,will they take action is the question?

 

[BrazilianPatriot]

In your favor is your defence industry base,none of te other countries produces sophisticated platforms.
Brasil needs to act its size,this looks like the time to so.
You say there is debate but we know what that means,will they take action is the question?

This is the crux of the matter.

A Brazilian move towards nuclear armament would likely face a massive response.

It would generate chaos and distrust among its South American neighbors (given that South America is highly fragmented between countries explicitly aligned with the US, governed by the right, and countries seeking to maintain a degree of independence – as is the case with Brazil, governed by the left).

Furthermore, there would be Western retaliation, and I don't know if the allies in the East would be willing to fight this battle on Brazil's behalf.

The main instrument of coalition in the so-called "Global South" is the BRICS+, which is essentially just a trade union. India openly supports Israel, while the other countries in the bloc condemn its actions.

I mention this in an attempt to contextualize that, yes, a Brazilian atomic movement would be complex. This is in addition to internal disapproval from the media and co-opted lobbies in Congress and the military.