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Wonder what kind of Reception he will receive?
 

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Wonder what kind of Reception he will receive?
Quite frankly it should be similar to how US receives allied nations military leaders. If its too extravagant then it would be awkward for both the US and Pakistan. He is not the head of state like military dictators. Anything above the norm is basically US announcing that it is no longer interested in dealing with the government and will look to bypass sitting governments for military staff. You can do that behind closed doors but never in the open. I am guessing Afghan eviction of those that are awaiting US immigration and Afghanistan affairs will be up for discussion.
 

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Quite frankly it should be similar to how US receives allied nations military leaders. If its too extravagant then it would be awkward for both the US and Pakistan. He is not the head of state like military dictators. Anything above the norm is basically US announcing that it is no longer interested in dealing with the government and will look to bypass sitting governments for military staff. You can do that behind closed doors but never in the open. I am guessing Afghan eviction of those that are awaiting US immigration and Afghanistan affairs will be up for discussion.
You may be right but I think Pentagon and State are going to press on HR issues and Free and Fair elections. The Chief main objective is to restart the suspended military aid and sales which in my opinion is not forthcoming at this time due to a stubborn Congress. We may be allies now on paper only. No substantial transactions in the offing.
 

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This is how l summarise USA-Pakistan relationship currently.
Pentagon- reluctant friends
State- no friends
Congress- no friends
US Administration- no friends
This is like climbing K-2 to mend fences.
 

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They're going to do what they always do. Toss the ball back on Pakistans court and wait for some improvements. While pretending to be deaf.

I don't know how the relationship to BD is, but wouldn't Pakistan stand to gain more from improving relations with BD and if necessary even on defense field ?

I don't know how much China would like that sort of relationship, but it's just an idea that I got.
 

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They're going to do what they always do. Toss the ball back on Pakistans court and wait for some improvements. While pretending to be deaf.

I don't know how the relationship to BD is, but wouldn't Pakistan stand to gain more from improving relations with BD and if necessary even on defense field ?

I don't know how much China would like that sort of relationship, but it's just an idea that I got.
You mean Bangladesh 🇧🇩?. It's a difficult situation due to the history. BD demands an apology and war crimes trials which would be difficult to agree to. Maybe a apology yes!
 
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They're going to do what they always do. Toss the ball back on Pakistans court and wait for some improvements. While pretending to be deaf.

I don't know how the relationship to BD is, but wouldn't Pakistan stand to gain more from improving relations with BD and if necessary even on defense field ?

I don't know how much China would like that sort of relationship, but it's just an idea that I got.
That's not possible till hasina shiekh is in power.

The last actual defence deal we had with bd was during Khalida zias govt. Where they bought Krl 122 MLRS etc.
 

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Apparently chief unable to meet state dept senior officials.
 

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"Blinken meeting a military dictator of a foreign country that is repressing his citizens at home. Usually people meet their official counterparts, Blinken is Sec of state and Asim Munir is head of Pakistan Army. Every few days State Dept says they have no preference for leadership in Pakistan, this is their actual preference. They prop up and back tinpot dictators like this despite their draconian crackdown on civil rights and democracy. It is all a joke."
 

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As far as I know there will be NO resumption of Military Sales to Pakistan by the Biden administration.
 

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Darkest Day in our chequered history. 16th December 1971
 

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If only they were wise enough to transfer the power to the democratically elected leader, all of this could have been avoided. But it is what it is, and History has moved on.
 
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If only they were wise enough to transferred the power to the democratically elected leader, all of this could have been avoided. But it is what it is, and History has moved on.
Unfortunately 16th December comes around every year. On a personal note l had family members who were taken POW, one uncle was PIA security officer at Dhaka and another was a Captain in the FF Regt. My uncle passed away last year but he left behind his personal diary from his posting in Dhaka and his 2 years as a POW. it's in urdu and I'm having it translated into English. Should be interesting reading. Of course he has told me a few stories about his time at Dhaka airport.
 

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