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They removed the news from the news site but forgot to delete the facebook post.
post date : 07 May 2025 07:11 (UTC+3)



Colonel Sofia Qureshi should issue a press release.
"Reports circulating on social media that our fighter jet has crashed are unfounded."

Television channels should broadcast the news with the headline "Busting Pakistan's fake news."

Indian social media users will not be required to cite GROK as a source after this statement.
The Pakistani side can make a big deal out of it as it likes, war doesn't happen only in the field.

What about the Indian newspaper's news? They first shared the image and then removed the news.
 

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The only thing proven is that Pakistan and its media is clutching at straws with 0 proof. No missile signatures. No remnant of a plane shot down. No pilot who ejected. No footage of any plane going down. Whatever footage they have provided has been either AI generated or unrelated to the incident. There was even an attempt to photoshop 001 on some picture. But I guess the Pak population needs to be sold a narrative that it will lap up. Old habits die hard.

Bro please accept the crashfootages objectively at least: 2 in kashmir and the 1 in Bathinda.

The last one has clear m88 engine and other confirmation posted earlier:

A senior French intelligence official has confirmed to CNN that one Indian Air Force Rafale fighter jet was shot down by Pakistan

This is also what the hindu article reported (3 wreckages) before it had to retract due to law it cant pre-release info before confirmation by defence ministry etc.

There is lot of fake image/disinfo out there for sure, but there is objective stuff too (or very close to it)....w.r.t wreckage pictures, ejection seats etc.
 

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Bro please accept the crashfootages objectively at least: 2 in kashmir and the 1 in Bathinda.

The last one has clear m88 engine and other confirmation posted earlier:

A senior French intelligence official has confirmed to CNN that one Indian Air Force Rafale fighter jet was shot down by Pakistan

This is also what the hindu article reported (3 wreckages) before it had to retract due to law it cant pre-release info before confirmation by defence ministry etc.

There is lot of fake image/disinfo out there for sure, but there is objective stuff too (or very close to it)....w.r.t wreckage pictures, ejection seats etc.
I am aware of the Bhatinda video . But that’s about it . Most likely one Rafale went down - it’s plausible. Haven’t seen any info coming from Kashmir
 

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I am aware of the Bhatinda video . But that’s about it . Most likely one Rafale went down - it’s plausible. Haven’t seen any info coming from Kashmir

Its somewhere earlier in thread.... there was mirage 2000 looking cone one and there was at least one more with russian ejection seat (so mig or suk) and i think one more russian ejection seat one that was different too....but not 100% sure.

Maybe another member can post these.
 

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There is apparently a very large drone attack (harops and maybe other kind of loitering drones) going on right now in a number of Pakistani towns and cities.

We will see what this all is later.
 

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French official says Pakistan downed Rafale jet as officials examine possible further losses​

From CNN’s Saskya Vandoorne in Paris

A high-ranking French intelligence official told CNN today that one Rafale fighter jet operated by the Indian Air Force was downed by Pakistan, in what would mark the first time that one of the sophisticated French-made warplanes has been lost in combat.

Pakistan claimed earlier today to have shot down five Indian Air Force jets in retaliation for Indian strikes, including three Rafales. Indian officials are yet to respond to the claim.

The French official told CNN that French authorities were looking into whether more than one Rafale jets were shot down by Pakistan overnight.
Pictures taken of parts of an aircraft that crashed in Indian-administered Kashmir show the label of a French manufacturer, but experts said it was not possible to say whether the part came from a Rafale aircraft.

Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the jet, has not responded to CNN’s requests for comment.


 

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Its somewhere earlier in thread.... there was mirage 2000 looking cone one and there was at least one more with russian ejection seat (so mig or suk) and i think one more russian ejection seat one that was different too....but not 100% sure.

Maybe another member can post these.


👆Presumably Mirage 2000 (M53 engine and the nose cone)


👆Likely from a Mig29. @Jackdaws

Along with these we have reports of three crashes by The Hindu, Reuters, citing local government officials.
 

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Its somewhere earlier in thread.... there was mirage 2000 looking cone one and there was at least one more with russian ejection seat (so mig or suk) and i think one more russian ejection seat one that was different too....but not 100% sure.

Maybe another member can post these.
Both were debunked - older pics posted.
 

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The only thing proven is that Pakistan and its media is clutching at straws with 0 proof. No missile signatures. No remnant of a plane shot down. No pilot who ejected. No footage of any plane going down. Whatever footage they have provided has been either AI generated or unrelated to the incident. There was even an attempt to photoshop 001 on some picture. But I guess the Pak population needs to be sold a narrative that it will lap up. Old habits die hard.
The Indian side has not provided any data confirming the destruction of enemy targets. I have not seen any photos or videos yet. But even without them, it is known that 6 to 9 targets were attacked. The Pakistanis have provided some evidence - a Rafale engine, an ejection seat from a Su-30 and others.



The French have admitted that the Pakistanis shot down at least one Rafale. The Indian side initially admitted the crash of 2 or 3 of its fighters of Russian origin. Now they are not confirming this.
True, the Russians do not admit this either. But the Russians are a special case, they did not even admit to the destruction of the Russian flagship by the Ukrainians 3 years later.
And you write as if nothing happened.
India carried out Operation Sindoor. Apparently, it was quite successful in terms of destroying Pakistani targets. But if we consider that 3 or 5 fighters were shot down during the operation, then even without Pakistani propaganda, the operation looks like a failure to some extent.
 
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