TR Politics

[TR_123456]

There are many similar examples ALL OVER THE WORLD, but I only see some Turks have "almanci" as a fishbone stuck to their throat.

But you are Almanci,im a Hollandaci.

 

[CAN_TR]

You know, in the end they will found a new party or join as independents at the next elections and join the parliament. It will be roughly the same 10% again. We have seen this already in the past in other forms.

Its better to punish those that break the law, then to go after the party itself imo, remove the rubbish, and maybe they'll find someone competent and not radical to chair the party and to bring change.


And btw the markets agree, its the last thing we need right now. USDTRY is up again. We need stability right now and HDP and PKK both are under control right now.

They will never get someone "competent" because they are basically chosen by PKK leaders, that Party never supported Turkish interest, everything about them is based on seperatism.

 

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They will never get someone "competent" because they are basically chosen by PKK leaders, that Party never supported Turkish interest, everything about them is based on seperatism.

If you give the radical ones the opportunity to get some of their legitimate issues be heard, there will be less of a reason for a university graduate to join a terrorist group. You just need to clean them up, maybe push someone as someone before me said "docile".

Its important imo to keep the HDP or any Kurdish party in the parliament. We will never grow as a country and democracy if we cant manage that.

You dont have to pay attention to them, they probably won't ever get any influence on our policy, (except if Erdogan decides that HDP > MHP again). Keep them in the spotlight and control, instead of forcing them into hiding and doing more shady things.

Ireland managed to get their terrorists docile, other countries too.

 

[GoatsMilk]

If you give the radical ones the opportunity to get some of their legitimate issues be heard, there will be less of a reason for a university graduate to join a terrorist group. You just need to clean them up, maybe push someone as someone before me said "docile".

Its important imo to keep the HDP or any Kurdish party in the parliament. We will never grow as a country and democracy if we cant manage that.

You dont have to pay attention to them, they probably won't ever get any influence on our policy, (except if Erdogan decides that HDP > MHP again). Keep them in the spotlight and control, instead of forcing them into hiding and doing more shady things.

Ireland managed to get their terrorists docile, other countries too.

Absolute madness. "democracy will grow" if you allow communist terrorists greater freedoms.

The more oxygen you give these terrorists to breath the worse the problem got for Turkey. PKK was near defeated, then AK party comes and under FETO orders started the peace process. Here we are today pkkistan in iraq and syria and Turks talk about letting them operate freely in parliament.

If this war is to take a hundred years, then you fight it for a hundred years.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Some people have no idea what the 90s were like in Turkey.

 

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Absolute madness. "democracy will grow" if you allow communist terrorists greater freedoms.

The more oxygen you give these terrorists to breath the worse the problem got for Turkey. PKK was near defeated, then AK party comes and under FETO orders started the peace process. Here we are today pkkistan in iraq and syria and Turks talk about letting them operate freely in parliament.

If this war is to take a hundred years, then you fight it for a hundred years.

Soo you take away democratic representation from six million citizens. Do you expect them to become better citizens? To have more trust in the state?

 

[Ardabas34]

Soo you take away democratic representation from six million citizens. Do you expect them to become better citizens? To have more trust in the state?

So when Ataturk was in power majority of the nation was probably still supporting sharia law and caliphate.
Democracy doesnt mean we ask everything to people. There are some constitutional laws that can only be changed if the state falls which will never happen.
Though I must say I would rather prefer the political ban of all the deputies who voiced their support for terrorism rather than closing the party. I think thats a line Erdogan doesnt want to cross for being politically banned himself once and exploiting this to the bone of it.

I mean just ask yourself this question: would France allow its Muslim minority to form a pro-sharia party that supports islamic terrorism in France?
States must be stern and vigorous when it comes to their national security.

 

[KKF 2.0]

Some people have no idea what the 90s were like in Turkey.

Baba, is that you?!

This is a typical killer argument of my father. If you can't provide a fact based argument, you can always travel back in time to the 90's. AKP 1 0 1.

 

[Huelague]

'Turkey key in Europe’s future as it was in past'

Our renewed close cooperation with EU to continue to bring peace, prosperity, stability to continent: Foreign Ministry - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[KKF 2.0]

AB planlanan yaptırımları askıya alıyor

Reuters'ın haberine göre AB, Türkiye ile ilişkilerin iyileşmesiyle TPAO'nun üst düzey yöneticilerine uygulamayı planladığı yaptırımları durdurdu

m.bloomberght.com

EU has decided not to sanction Turkey. Previously, the European Union had planned to sanction Turkish companies due to Turkey's decisive actions in the Mediterranean and the Aegean.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Baba, is that you?!

This is a typical killer argument of my father. If you can't provide a fact based argument, you can always travel back in time to the 90's. AKP 1 0 1.

Everytime the likes of you is faced with that fact, you immediately resort to the one-tone accusation of "AKPian propaganda".
Here's a hint: You're wrong.
Another hint: Change the tune, it's getting old. Try something original.

 

[Akhtar]

If you give the radical ones the opportunity to get some of their legitimate issues be heard, there will be less of a reason for a university graduate to join a terrorist group. You just need to clean them up, maybe push someone as someone before me said "docile".

Its important imo to keep the HDP or any Kurdish party in the parliament. We will never grow as a country and democracy if we cant manage that.

You dont have to pay attention to them, they probably won't ever get any influence on our policy, (except if Erdogan decides that HDP > MHP again). Keep them in the spotlight and control, instead of forcing them into hiding and doing more shady things.

Ireland managed to get their terrorists docile, other countries too.

I don't know how comparable it is but Sinn Fein is similar. UK actually worked okay with the different identities. But the written history of the identities taught is longer. Not the case for us here.

Also what changed with the EU ? was there a win on the table ?

 

[Ryder]

To the babies crying about HDP.

Remember this even Ataturk closed political parties.

Hdp was given so many chances to come clean and get rid of its terrorist image. Nah they supported terrorism, acted against Turkish interests, divided Turkish society, never condemned separatism, hang the flags and pictures of ocalan in their party buildings. They even helped terrorists by giving them foot soldiers and funds from the Turkish state!!! Can you imagine that??? Sri Lanka had the same problem with certain tamil parties supporting the Tamil tigers.

Time is up bad luck. Close them down.

 

[Ryder]

Soo you take away democratic representation from six million citizens. Do you expect them to become better citizens? To have more trust in the state?

If 6 million vote for a terrorist party it seems those 6 millions have committed treason against their state by supporting a party with well known terrorist links from its party members.

To the 6 million that voted for them the real question has to be asked why did they vote for a terrorist political party?

 

[Ryder]

If you give the radical ones the opportunity to get some of their legitimate issues be heard, there will be less of a reason for a university graduate to join a terrorist group. You just need to clean them up, maybe push someone as someone before me said "docile".

Its important imo to keep the HDP or any Kurdish party in the parliament. We will never grow as a country and democracy if we cant manage that.

You dont have to pay attention to them, they probably won't ever get any influence on our policy, (except if Erdogan decides that HDP > MHP again). Keep them in the spotlight and control, instead of forcing them into hiding and doing more shady things.

Ireland managed to get their terrorists docile, other countries too.

How did the British stop the IRA and other terrorist groups in ireland??

They used a iron fisted approach they eliminated leaders and their foot soldiers to the point that they had no leg to stand on the IRA. This was not done with diplomacy or democracy but with war. You cant negotiate with terrorists.

 

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If 6 million vote for a terrorist party it seems those 6 millions have committed treason against their state by supporting a party with well known terrorist links from its party members.

To the 6 million that voted for them the real question has to be asked why did they vote for a terrorist political party?

You're just so simple-minded. 6m people have committed treason, sure.

 

[Ryder]

You're just so simple-minded. 6m people have committed treason, sure.

Please enlight me with your wisdom then.

Dont play games with me. Hdp is nothing more than pkk's party end of story and 6 million voting for them is even a bigger insult.

We still have users who love bending their knees down to them all in the name of democracy.

The proofs are there from there party members to even their leader demirtas bragged in a rally that we are going to put apos statues in the heart of this country.

Lets not forget how hdp called for a uprising or a rebellion which got dozens killed.

Somehow im the simple minded "one"

 

[GoatsMilk]

To the babies crying about HDP.

Remember this even Ataturk closed political parties.

Hdp was given so many chances to come clean and get rid of its terrorist image. Nah they supported terrorism, acted against Turkish interests, divided Turkish society, never condemned separatism, hang the flags and pictures of ocalan in their party buildings. They even helped terrorists by giving them foot soldiers and funds from the Turkish state!!! Can you imagine that??? Sri Lanka had the same problem with certain tamil parties supporting the Tamil tigers.

Time is up bad luck. Close them down.

Remember when the Russian jet was shot down? What did the Kurdish HDP do? They ran to support Russia against Turkey. Only traitors let these guys operate freely in Turkey, just think the Turkish taxpayer pays their wages.

Absolute scum these pkk traitors are. Crush them.

Then the KRG which Turkey built and protected, this is how they repay the Turks and the surrounding nations.

 

[Ryder]

Remember when the Russian jet was shot down? What did the Kurdish HDP do? They ran to support Russia against Turkey. Only traitors let these guys operate freely in Turkey, just think the Turkish taxpayer pays their wages.

Absolute scum these pkk traitors are. Crush them.

You still have users defending them despite the blatant proofs.

 

[GoatsMilk]

You still have users defending them despite the blatant proofs.

My feeling is its communists or kurds. There is no other way you can defend such treachery. If CHP ran to Russia to support them after Turkey downed a jet, they would get the same treatment. Crush them.

I remember Demirtas being the white mans favourite lacky being invited to all sorts of conferences in europe by european politicians to denounce the Turks and Turkey, while promoting sepratism.

How have the Turks of Turkey become numb in the head to tolerate all this filth? How do Muslims look away from such filth?