TR Propulsion Systems

[Yasar_TR]

GE/US can get access to sensitive data about the fighter and the engine if the main contractor is TEI. That alone is enough reason for this approach. GE will also get a bigger pie if TEI is the main contractor. The main contractor, which owns the IP rights, sells the engines this is the reason IP rights are important. If TUSAS sells 500 fighters over 2 decades, that means over 1000 engines. Now TRMotor will sell the engines, and TEI will produce whatever work package TRMotor assigns to TEI.

You seem to have missed the main point here. As explained by Dr Aksit, GE doesn’t get involved in engine developments or production of TS1400, PD170 and TF6000. These are all products whose IP rights are in the hands of Turkish entities. There is an understanding between GE and TAI. Do you think GE will know anything sensitive about TF6000? Dr Aksit, during his interview had said that everything they do for these engines are done in a separate line free from GE involvement.
TEI produces these engines and as Tusas owns majority share of TEI, they control the IP rights. TS1400 is a good example. It’s IP right are owned by TEI and Tusas. We can sell it and tf6000 to any one we want. GE has no say in it.

Lets assume TEI is the main contractor and sells the engine for double the price of production to an export customer for 20 million dollars. 10 million is profit and GE gets 4.6 millions. If TRMotor sells the same product, TEI is paid for its workshare, and TRMotor will get all of the profit.

This is the important part. This is why TR Motor is there. Not for IP rights. IP rights is a smoke screen. So a thumbs up to your post for this paragraph.
That is why all engines are going through TR Motor company now. There is a lot of -“profit” - to be made here.

 

[Shtr]

Let me share 2024 profit of the TUSAS which might solve some issues.

https://iso500.org.tr/tusas-turk-havacilik-ve-uzay-sanayii-as?yil=2024&birinci500=1

Their profit around 50M $ before tax. What we are talking is really small amount of money. It is approximately 40M $ . This is roughly half of the Osimhen price. It is clearly that it is not related to profit.

 

[2033]

Let me share 2024 profit of the TUSAS which might solve some issues.

https://iso500.org.tr/tusas-turk-havacilik-ve-uzay-sanayii-as?yil=2024&birinci500=1

Their profit around 50M $ before tax. What we are talking is really small amount of money. It is approximately 40M $ . This is roughly half of the Osimhen price. It is clearly that it is not related to profit.

When too much investment is made, profits decline. You can't predict what will happen ten years from now.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Let me share 2024 profit of the TUSAS which might solve some issues.

https://iso500.org.tr/tusas-turk-havacilik-ve-uzay-sanayii-as?yil=2024&birinci500=1

Their profit around 50M $ before tax. What we are talking is really small amount of money. It is approximately 40M $ . This is roughly half of the Osimhen price. It is clearly that it is not related to profit.

Just a quick arithmetic for the next decade after serial production:
250 Kaan for Tuaf
48 Kaan for Indonesia
48 Kaan for Egypt
~100 Kaan for other countries like Pak, Azerbaycan, Saudi etc
makes 1000+ engines. at 8-10 million each you are looking at 8-10 billion dollars.
200KE forTuaf
200Anka3 for Tuaf.
~ 400 more planes for other countries
makes another 1000 tf6000/10000 engines at 5-6 million each makes 5-6 billion dollars.
So within a decade at least 15+ billion dollars of engine sales.

Take Tusas with 450 Kaans at 120 million each will make 54billion dollars
300Anka3 s at 40 million will be 12 billion. (I guesstimated Anka-3)
So just those two engines and planes will mean over 80 billion in sales in a decade or so after serial production start.